Gb was already gonna take a week off for personal reasons but the recent events are making him take off longer since he cancelled the rest of streams.. I’m gonna miss his streams too, they were something I looked forward to in the mornings
manes i am on my hands and knees begging you to step in. i know y’all are generally hands off but that’s just not gonna work for what’s going on rn. this reflects badly on stars as a whole when there is so much drama going on and there are valid reasons for concern.
Girl, I suggest you take a break if you’re more concern on the drama than supporting your oshis. It’s not good for your mental health. I already had my trust on the managers on this. I guess people here are still traumatized with the Magnoir grads and coincidentally the Tempus 2nd anniversary is next week. Hmm…
They’re doomposting bcoz they think Jurard is destroying Holostars and they want to rip his tongue out to shut him up. The antis are still shitting on him and these armadas hate Jurard for attracting drama. It’s basically like what Vesper did after his Japan arc where he riled up the antis. If anything, these armadas are more concern on what the haters think.
I hope he’s okay and whatever accident happened near his place wasn’t too bad. There’s news of a commercial mall on fire last night but idk if it’s near his area & the timing seems off by a couple hours?
1.) Respect SORAWRITY and new VIEWERS. We need to scam them in NOT SCARE THEM AWAY. 2.) NO SPAMMING IN THE CHAT. Only me. Try to get my attention by that and you will be executed. 3.) Discuss only things ABOUT ME AND ABOUT THE STREAM. NO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS OUTSIDE OF IT.
4.) Do not MENTION ME in any of the livers’ streams unless I am mentioned.
5.) Don’t fight in the chat. Die somewhere else.
6.) As much as possible chat in ENGLISH. South Elysian is not a universal language so let’s include others in the conversation.
Also, Shika-mane is there. They have an impromptu meeting which is why Jurard muted the stream for a while.
setting chat rules is good & all but I still see some grey names derailing chat by asking out-of-topic random questions or saying inappropriate stuff like “I volunteer to make babies with Jurard”
literally what is wrong with baby making factory….. its quite obviously a joke and not offensive. elysiumbaby population is getting quite generalizable, u guys deteriorate if u dont report something within 5 min.
What’s with the increasing posts about Ruzaders/Octoposse vs Sorawrity/Bubbies fandom infights? Recently I’ve seen lots of people who put down Jurard and GB and their fanbase while claiming they only watch Ruze and Tavi from Armis, it’s always those two for some reason. I’m not being sarcastic or immediately claiming they’re baits or anything, just curious about what made the fandom division
i really only watch ruze regularly, but that has nothing to do with fanbases or drama or anything. i just prefer streamers that are more level-headed and consistent because that appeals to my particular flavour of autism. i only started watching tavi recently because i got a similar energy from his lies of p streams.
in general i think beefing with other stars’ fanbases is pointless. a holostar is a holostar, and i still want to see them all succeed regardless of whether i personally watch/enjoy their content or not
I think the level of professionalism attracts a different age demographic. I’m not in my 20s and I really appreciate the consistency both Octavio and Ruze bring to stars for the little time and money I can invest in this hobby. I can rely on vods to not disappear for good, they don’t try to agitate other fanbases, they execute creative streams that go above and beyond what people expect all the time, and they show incredible work ethic and passion for their own content. I’m not saying Ruze and Octavio never slip up on these things. I’m also not saying none of this applies to GB and Jurard, but enough don’t that I can’t always invest in their content. It’s not an “elitism” thing, it’s having a lack of things to complain about vs not.
the professionalism of each boys, or how they handle their contents and fandom, differed too much despite coming from the same gen and the corpo allegedly selling group synergies, which the fanbase reflected. Those who are fan of the “more professional” side became elitist and those for the “less professional” side who usually gets the criticism became overprotective. But it all sums up to the expectations vs reality case for different sort of fans with striking differences in what they seek in their oshis, even to the conflicting point. The boys may get along, but their contents and how they treat the contents or the fanbase clashed to work as a unified fandom for a whole gen.
This makes sense. As a fan of one of the unprofessional ones I’ll admit I stopped watching the rest of Armis at one point because of hate and elitist fans. I remember a Nyfco nonnie once said Ruze was a genius for giving commentary during watchalongs and the other boys’ watchalongs where they just watch and react was lazy, basic and below nonnie’s standards. That put me off so much to the point I couldn’t stand Ruze and his fans anymore for a while.
Personally I think thats a pretty stupid reason to stop watching someone you previously enjoyed before hearing someone else’s comment, but I guess I’m glad there’s less weirdly impulsive people making unpredictable judgments like this in his chat so its a win for both of us.
Yeah, that’s exactly what caused the infighting here. I think the armadas have very high expectations of the boys and when they don’t turn out what they expected, it’s understandable that they’re disappointed. But then, instead of constructive criticism, it ended up becoming more of nitpicking every flaw to dictating what they should do to doubting them being Holostars.
We’ve already seen this kind of attitude in the previous gens and generally, among idol fans such as the Kpop fandom. Like, they’re expecting their oshis to be perfect or be the ace among idols and expecting them to change their flaws over time. Tbf, it’s only 8 months and the boys are still finding their foothold in Holostars. We already hear them talking about trying to improve their singing skills and trying to get their health better. Sometimes, I think we should be patient about what their future holds for them. That’s part of the idol journey which is improving one’s self. We’ve seen several of Holo members who are not confident in their singing abilities and have relapses in their early careers but they improved
If your oshi doesn’t meet your expectations, maybe they’re not meant for you. Instead of wallowing yourself negativity and despising their every move, it’s best to maybe back out for a bit.
Not the OP. Just wanted to add that even Octavio from the “more professional” side isn’t immune from being put down by the fanbase as seen just a few pages back when his M&G didn’t get sold out like Ruze & Jurard.
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GB is taking a week off due to recent events and weather. I’m gonna miss him.
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He’s gotta stop scheduling art related streams at the end of the week. Idk if he just gets cold feet but theres always a reason to cancel.
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Gb was already gonna take a week off for personal reasons but the recent events are making him take off longer since he cancelled the rest of streams.. I’m gonna miss his streams too, they were something I looked forward to in the mornings
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Being put on the gambling ship Espoir and forced to stream the death games would fix jurard
^reference that will land with like 3 nonnies at best
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That man would wind up mining in a hole somewhere very quickly.
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Jurard forced to do yaki dogeza after his latest yab
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manes i am on my hands and knees begging you to step in. i know y’all are generally hands off but that’s just not gonna work for what’s going on rn. this reflects badly on stars as a whole when there is so much drama going on and there are valid reasons for concern.
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Girl, I suggest you take a break if you’re more concern on the drama than supporting your oshis. It’s not good for your mental health. I already had my trust on the managers on this. I guess people here are still traumatized with the Magnoir grads and coincidentally the Tempus 2nd anniversary is next week. Hmm…
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what’s going on? i’m a tempura, but i keep seeing vagueposts about armada drama. something about jurard menshi leaks?
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They’re doomposting bcoz they think Jurard is destroying Holostars and they want to rip his tongue out to shut him up. The antis are still shitting on him and these armadas hate Jurard for attracting drama. It’s basically like what Vesper did after his Japan arc where he riled up the antis. If anything, these armadas are more concern on what the haters think.
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Wrong I want to rip out his tongue because I’m a ryona girlie
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same.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7V_9XzkLTU
Funny animation about Ruze giving his senpais candy
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Daily i love tavi (((o(*ﾟ▽ﾟ*)o)))♡
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I hope he’s okay and whatever accident happened near his place wasn’t too bad. There’s news of a commercial mall on fire last night but idk if it’s near his area & the timing seems off by a couple hours?
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Jurard finally posted his chat rules.
Also, Shika-mane is there. They have an impromptu meeting which is why Jurard muted the stream for a while.
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setting chat rules is good & all but I still see some grey names derailing chat by asking out-of-topic random questions or saying inappropriate stuff like “I volunteer to make babies with Jurard”
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if they still don’t follow the rules, just report and block them. had to do that twice in the stream.
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Yeah I did that three times coz one of them keep bringing it up “Jurard is making babies? I volunteer” & “Jurard baby making factory”.
And this was after someone else telling chat to read the rules
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literally what is wrong with baby making factory….. its quite obviously a joke and not offensive. elysiumbaby population is getting quite generalizable, u guys deteriorate if u dont report something within 5 min.
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its the same person spamming the same thing in less than 5 minutes
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oh ok so it was spam
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People are doing this on the day he makes rules and he’s already not enforcing them? Yikes
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no, he’s already banned spammers. that’s why there’s that new rule.
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there’s an additional rule: don’t @ him in his streams. he’ll add it sooner or later.
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But why? It’s not like he will get a notification if they do, right???
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it gets highlighted and is easy for spammers to misuse it to ‘speak directly to him’ chat is an embodiment of everyone not one guy shouting.
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just dont do it retard
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What’s with the increasing posts about Ruzaders/Octoposse vs Sorawrity/Bubbies fandom infights? Recently I’ve seen lots of people who put down Jurard and GB and their fanbase while claiming they only watch Ruze and Tavi from Armis, it’s always those two for some reason. I’m not being sarcastic or immediately claiming they’re baits or anything, just curious about what made the fandom division
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It’s just because GB and Jurard are the ones who have had “issues” lately, while Octavio and Ruze are business as usual.
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i really only watch ruze regularly, but that has nothing to do with fanbases or drama or anything. i just prefer streamers that are more level-headed and consistent because that appeals to my particular flavour of autism. i only started watching tavi recently because i got a similar energy from his lies of p streams.
in general i think beefing with other stars’ fanbases is pointless. a holostar is a holostar, and i still want to see them all succeed regardless of whether i personally watch/enjoy their content or not
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I think the level of professionalism attracts a different age demographic. I’m not in my 20s and I really appreciate the consistency both Octavio and Ruze bring to stars for the little time and money I can invest in this hobby. I can rely on vods to not disappear for good, they don’t try to agitate other fanbases, they execute creative streams that go above and beyond what people expect all the time, and they show incredible work ethic and passion for their own content. I’m not saying Ruze and Octavio never slip up on these things. I’m also not saying none of this applies to GB and Jurard, but enough don’t that I can’t always invest in their content. It’s not an “elitism” thing, it’s having a lack of things to complain about vs not.
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the professionalism of each boys, or how they handle their contents and fandom, differed too much despite coming from the same gen and the corpo allegedly selling group synergies, which the fanbase reflected. Those who are fan of the “more professional” side became elitist and those for the “less professional” side who usually gets the criticism became overprotective. But it all sums up to the expectations vs reality case for different sort of fans with striking differences in what they seek in their oshis, even to the conflicting point. The boys may get along, but their contents and how they treat the contents or the fanbase clashed to work as a unified fandom for a whole gen.
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This makes sense. As a fan of one of the unprofessional ones I’ll admit I stopped watching the rest of Armis at one point because of hate and elitist fans. I remember a Nyfco nonnie once said Ruze was a genius for giving commentary during watchalongs and the other boys’ watchalongs where they just watch and react was lazy, basic and below nonnie’s standards. That put me off so much to the point I couldn’t stand Ruze and his fans anymore for a while.
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Personally I think thats a pretty stupid reason to stop watching someone you previously enjoyed before hearing someone else’s comment, but I guess I’m glad there’s less weirdly impulsive people making unpredictable judgments like this in his chat so its a win for both of us.
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Yeah, that’s exactly what caused the infighting here. I think the armadas have very high expectations of the boys and when they don’t turn out what they expected, it’s understandable that they’re disappointed. But then, instead of constructive criticism, it ended up becoming more of nitpicking every flaw to dictating what they should do to doubting them being Holostars.
We’ve already seen this kind of attitude in the previous gens and generally, among idol fans such as the Kpop fandom. Like, they’re expecting their oshis to be perfect or be the ace among idols and expecting them to change their flaws over time. Tbf, it’s only 8 months and the boys are still finding their foothold in Holostars. We already hear them talking about trying to improve their singing skills and trying to get their health better. Sometimes, I think we should be patient about what their future holds for them. That’s part of the idol journey which is improving one’s self. We’ve seen several of Holo members who are not confident in their singing abilities and have relapses in their early careers but they improved
If your oshi doesn’t meet your expectations, maybe they’re not meant for you. Instead of wallowing yourself negativity and despising their every move, it’s best to maybe back out for a bit.
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Not the OP. Just wanted to add that even Octavio from the “more professional” side isn’t immune from being put down by the fanbase as seen just a few pages back when his M&G didn’t get sold out like Ruze & Jurard.
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p for puze
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