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Anonymous
August 8, 2024 9:41 am
I have a confession to make
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I genuinely can’t watch streams of ARMIS anymore with chat on because I hate how so many of them feel like discord servers rather than the normal streamer chat. People having individual convos instead of engaging with game play or commenting on discussion and it makes me feel out of place. It’s worse with some boys with others but this my overall sentiment.
OH THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS!! most of the armis fans are way too comfortable around the talent and bantering too much to the talent. iirc flay mentioned something about not bantering or demanding too much to octavio during the house of fatamorgana collab (context, they were talking about mascot). I think flay noticed that octoposse was bantering with octavio too much…. ngl I’m uncomfortable with octoposse that can’t read the room…. i had to block most of them on yt and twitter
You obviously do not watch Octavio enough, anon. He knows how Octoposse will react by mentioning the mascot and he has been very generous with banning people in chat who just can’t read the room.
“can’t watch streams of ARMIS anymore with chat on” I don’t know if you know how to read in between the lines but this literally implies that OP already turns chat off. You sound like one of the people who do that shit and turn chats into your personal discord server lmao.
I feel like if someone who doesn’t know anything about Holostars looks at a mascot, and the mascot looks like it can plausibly belong to two separate members, then you’ve fundamentally failed from a branding perspective. I’m not saying this to shit on the artist or anyone in particular, I just think it’s unfortunate that Tavi’s mascot isn’t as effective as it could be for his brand.
Here’s what I think would be a more effective design for Octavio. Keeping the pink for small accents and i placed them roughly in the same spots to where they are on his design. Plus if you really want something on its head i think some antennae-like strings would be cute and match his theming more than the jester ears. This is just a fun thought experiment for me, you’re entitled to your own opinion if you like the original design as it is
Oh interesting, I like the strings as ears. Idk if I like the color swap of the arms and symbol to the light blue vs pink but I like the pink under the coat
(OP) I think you guys are misunderstanding. 1. I love the Bettelion mascot personally so this is not coming from a place of jealousy. 2. I’m not saying the Poppets look like the Bettellion, I’m saying the Poppets look like they could be Bettel’s mascot as well as Octavio’s which means the branding is muddy and could’ve been stronger/more distinct. 3. Reiterating again, I’m not trying to shit on anyone, Tavi, or the artist. This is just an observation
bettelion really pressed they didn’t get as cute a mascot, huh. Anyway, poppet has Octavio’s colors and strings/stitching and suits him well so die mad ig.
I agree on the pink and light blue parts switching (so the light blue is the main color with pink only being in few spots). I do think it’s that, overall, there’s just too many purple/pink/red mascots in StarsEN and we’ve finally hit the nadir (no fault to Octavio, I like the design itself a lot). Like just breaking it down by main color:
– Cultare = cyan
– Magmites = dark purple
– Axelotls = dark gray w/yellow fins
– Vesties/Vestea = primarily white w/black accents
– Phantom = purple
– Bettelion = mix of fuchsia/red/purple
– Chibi-TRUS = mainly red
– Machiroons = black with no armor, mostly red with armor
– Hakkitos = purple
– Koipanions = mainly white w/ orange/brown/yellow spots (and the main hat being black)
– Sorawrity = pink
– Bubbies = brown
– Ruzaders = red
– Poppets = mix of gray/white/pink/purple
That’s 9 mascots/fandom reps with some kind of red/purple/pink coloration out of 14.
Yeah its almost like cover is allergic to giving us teal/green/yellow boys and insists on spamming purple/red themes. Give us the other half of the color spectrum cover
idk what’s with the downvotes but i agree with this. i wish it was less pink and more blue. silver blue and black are more of his color than pink/purple (i suppose there’s some pink on his coat but we don’t see that part often)
not the comment op but that’s not a “gotcha”? pink is clearly a small fraction of his colour palette if it’s only in his eyes and inner coat, whereas in the mascot it takes up a much larger percentage of the palette. i agree with them that it should’ve been kept to smaller accents with more blue and black
It wasn’t meant to be a “gotcha,” it was pointing out that there is pink present in a part of his design that is near-constantly on-screen. I would’ve liked to see a few possible color arrangements, but I don’t mind the amount of pink present. I think the cacophonous color palette reinforces an idea that these little guys were sewn together from the parts of multiple predecessors. They’re little Franken-puppets with Heartless vibes.
Using more blue and black would actually have diminished that aspect of the mascot design. I also just like seeing more pink in a Stars mascot for a character it makes sense to use the color with.
I’m wary that there’s a portion (not all, obviously) of Bettelion who are reacting as if pink can only be “Bettel’s thing,” and I’m hoping I’m overthinking that.
I don’t think that’s the case and outside of this site nobody seems to have a problem with the design. It’s similar ish but to me it’s only because of the floppy jesteresque ears that bettel has been trying to really enforce with his brand lately and even then i don’t have a problem with it. The pink critique is such a nothing burger
How would using blue and black diminish the mascot design when most of his design are those colors wat 😭 Literally pink and purple looks like it matches with Bettel more than it does Octavio. Pink is not just Bettel’s thing, that is not the issue here it’s that we look more like Bettel’s mascot than Octavio’s. 🤷♀️
“I would’ve liked to see a few possible color arrangements, but I don’t mind the amount of pink present. I think the cacophonous color palette reinforces an idea that these little guys were sewn together from the parts of multiple predecessors. They’re little Franken-puppets with Heartless vibes.”
i think using light blue for the pink parts would have kept the patched together vibe while matching his palette better with pink left only for small areas like the stomach or under the tailcoats. nobody is saying pink is bettel’s thing, it’s the even spread of pink next to purplish-blue and the jester ears that strongly evokes bettel. octavio’s mascot could’ve achieved everything you think it should achieve without the similarities to bettel’s aesthetic
That’s totally fair! I totally respect if people prefer it how it is but I drew out what I was thinking here though just to visualize my point since describing things back and forth isn’t as effective
Aside from the ears & humanoid shape, there isn’t much similarities. Maybe slightly overdesigned compared to other Armis mascots but I’m not really complaining. I think it’s cute the “showmen” talents have similar themes with each other.
If the design looked like that without the jester ears and with a mainly blue colour palette it would be perfect. I get wanting some pink since Octavio has some too but it would’ve been better to have it just as tiny accents. The even spread of pink and purplish-blue is just undeniably too similar to Bettel’s aesthetic. It’s really a shame too since the design is definitely really cute but it’s overshadowed by the similarities
I’m shocked people think of Bettel’s mascot this is a KH inspired design down to the heart chest. Also Tavi has the cotton candy aesthetic, Bettelion are more flamboyant in their colour palette as well.
I think it did such a great job and he didn’t forget their round body! It’s super cute! Love it!!
Genuinely not trying to be inflammatory but does gibby try to get vods nuked on purpose or does he genuinely not know? I swear he’s probably one of the members of stars en in general who have had vods taken down by manes over doxx/perms and I feel like everyone else is really good about it usually?
I think he’s just stupid and clumsy. And so far, I hadn’t seen anyone leaking that tiny face reveal except here. Though this is minor compared to Axel’s Christmas cake vod, lol.
Wait is it a really obvious face reveal? I archived it without watching because I know his vods are prone to get nuked, didn’t know there was actual doxx in there.
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OH THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS!! most of the armis fans are way too comfortable around the talent and bantering too much to the talent. iirc flay mentioned something about not bantering or demanding too much to octavio during the house of fatamorgana collab (context, they were talking about mascot). I think flay noticed that octoposse was bantering with octavio too much…. ngl I’m uncomfortable with octoposse that can’t read the room…. i had to block most of them on yt and twitter
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You obviously do not watch Octavio enough, anon. He knows how Octoposse will react by mentioning the mascot and he has been very generous with banning people in chat who just can’t read the room.
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Yall are so sensitive, literally close the chat or spam your laugh emotes like you would anyway just stfu nobody cares girl
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“can’t watch streams of ARMIS anymore with chat on” I don’t know if you know how to read in between the lines but this literally implies that OP already turns chat off. You sound like one of the people who do that shit and turn chats into your personal discord server lmao.
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and maybe i am, keep crying about it i guess
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May your oshi ban you form chat
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Ahh I understand you anon. This is presently why I now became more of a “VoD gang” fan. Easier to avoid even seeing the chat that way haha
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Daily Tavi anon how are u feeling about the design reveal 🥰i can’t wait to draw my own mask and poppet design!
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HELLOO!!!! DAILY TAVI ANON HERE!! I REALLY LOVE IT AAAHHHHH it really suit with tavi’s aesthetic too! cute and a lil bit scary /pos
I’m going to draw my own poppet mascot today!! ehehehe ٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و ♡
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i also can’t wait to draw my poppet, daily tavi anon (⌒ω⌒)
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so did anyone archive Gibby’s vod from today? I was too busy to watch it in full
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I only saved a clip of the bit where it showed his face. Here’s a link: https://imgur.com/a/wCAmm5N
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I feel like if someone who doesn’t know anything about Holostars looks at a mascot, and the mascot looks like it can plausibly belong to two separate members, then you’ve fundamentally failed from a branding perspective. I’m not saying this to shit on the artist or anyone in particular, I just think it’s unfortunate that Tavi’s mascot isn’t as effective as it could be for his brand.
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why bettellion always angry at everything….. your oshi is chill…
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Why did bettelion sank da titanic goddamit!!!!!
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Here’s what I think would be a more effective design for Octavio. Keeping the pink for small accents and i placed them roughly in the same spots to where they are on his design. Plus if you really want something on its head i think some antennae-like strings would be cute and match his theming more than the jester ears. This is just a fun thought experiment for me, you’re entitled to your own opinion if you like the original design as it is
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Oh interesting, I like the strings as ears. Idk if I like the color swap of the arms and symbol to the light blue vs pink but I like the pink under the coat
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(OP) I think you guys are misunderstanding. 1. I love the Bettelion mascot personally so this is not coming from a place of jealousy. 2. I’m not saying the Poppets look like the Bettellion, I’m saying the Poppets look like they could be Bettel’s mascot as well as Octavio’s which means the branding is muddy and could’ve been stronger/more distinct. 3. Reiterating again, I’m not trying to shit on anyone, Tavi, or the artist. This is just an observation
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People are just hating, I got what you mean anon.
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Bettel leans more pink/purple and not dark blue, which is what the majority of poppet is.
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Tavi wants to be in the spotlight so bad.
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That’s literally what he’s supposed to do?
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bettelion really pressed they didn’t get as cute a mascot, huh. Anyway, poppet has Octavio’s colors and strings/stitching and suits him well so die mad ig.
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You look so mad, chill.
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NTA you guys started the comparison so i’ll let you have it. Poppet design is what you guys wished Bettelions looked like. There, happy?
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you’re putting words in people’s mouths. that’s not what we’re saying
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I don’t like either of them. They’re both way too detailed for mascots and look out of place next to the others.
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go back to your tempus page pls you’re so sad
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I sort of disagree with that opinion and think Tavi’s mascot is more on brand to the puppet theme than Bettel’s imp design.
Side by side they are so different
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Maybe similar because of the ears but they couldn’t be more different imo (forgot pic)
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would’ve looked so different if tavi’s didn’t have pink in the color palette, that’s the only similarity i could see
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Yeah, I’d actually like a color scheme that is more on dark/light blue
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If the pink and light blue parts were switched, say pink stitches and light blue sleeves/pant leg, would that be better? The chest seal can stay pink.
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I agree on the pink and light blue parts switching (so the light blue is the main color with pink only being in few spots). I do think it’s that, overall, there’s just too many purple/pink/red mascots in StarsEN and we’ve finally hit the nadir (no fault to Octavio, I like the design itself a lot). Like just breaking it down by main color:
– Cultare = cyan
– Magmites = dark purple
– Axelotls = dark gray w/yellow fins
– Vesties/Vestea = primarily white w/black accents
– Phantom = purple
– Bettelion = mix of fuchsia/red/purple
– Chibi-TRUS = mainly red
– Machiroons = black with no armor, mostly red with armor
– Hakkitos = purple
– Koipanions = mainly white w/ orange/brown/yellow spots (and the main hat being black)
– Sorawrity = pink
– Bubbies = brown
– Ruzaders = red
– Poppets = mix of gray/white/pink/purple
That’s 9 mascots/fandom reps with some kind of red/purple/pink coloration out of 14.
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Yeah its almost like cover is allergic to giving us teal/green/yellow boys and insists on spamming purple/red themes. Give us the other half of the color spectrum cover
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Octavio released a cover in celebration of his mascot debut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TBPutZo6Ac
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yeah he accidentally leaked the song title on T2 menshi when he recorded the vocals for T3 lol
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CUTE CUTE CUTE
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The design itself is nice just wished it had a different color scheme. Too similar to Bettelion
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idk what’s with the downvotes but i agree with this. i wish it was less pink and more blue. silver blue and black are more of his color than pink/purple (i suppose there’s some pink on his coat but we don’t see that part often)
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Bro’s eyes are literally pink.
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not the comment op but that’s not a “gotcha”? pink is clearly a small fraction of his colour palette if it’s only in his eyes and inner coat, whereas in the mascot it takes up a much larger percentage of the palette. i agree with them that it should’ve been kept to smaller accents with more blue and black
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It wasn’t meant to be a “gotcha,” it was pointing out that there is pink present in a part of his design that is near-constantly on-screen. I would’ve liked to see a few possible color arrangements, but I don’t mind the amount of pink present. I think the cacophonous color palette reinforces an idea that these little guys were sewn together from the parts of multiple predecessors. They’re little Franken-puppets with Heartless vibes.
Using more blue and black would actually have diminished that aspect of the mascot design. I also just like seeing more pink in a Stars mascot for a character it makes sense to use the color with.
I’m wary that there’s a portion (not all, obviously) of Bettelion who are reacting as if pink can only be “Bettel’s thing,” and I’m hoping I’m overthinking that.
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I don’t think that’s the case and outside of this site nobody seems to have a problem with the design. It’s similar ish but to me it’s only because of the floppy jesteresque ears that bettel has been trying to really enforce with his brand lately and even then i don’t have a problem with it. The pink critique is such a nothing burger
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I agree! I’m glad the reception is generally positive.
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How would using blue and black diminish the mascot design when most of his design are those colors wat 😭 Literally pink and purple looks like it matches with Bettel more than it does Octavio. Pink is not just Bettel’s thing, that is not the issue here it’s that we look more like Bettel’s mascot than Octavio’s. 🤷♀️
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“I would’ve liked to see a few possible color arrangements, but I don’t mind the amount of pink present. I think the cacophonous color palette reinforces an idea that these little guys were sewn together from the parts of multiple predecessors. They’re little Franken-puppets with Heartless vibes.”
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i think using light blue for the pink parts would have kept the patched together vibe while matching his palette better with pink left only for small areas like the stomach or under the tailcoats. nobody is saying pink is bettel’s thing, it’s the even spread of pink next to purplish-blue and the jester ears that strongly evokes bettel. octavio’s mascot could’ve achieved everything you think it should achieve without the similarities to bettel’s aesthetic
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I agree! I think that could’ve worked as well. I just don’t mind the pink instead of the light blue.
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That’s totally fair! I totally respect if people prefer it how it is but I drew out what I was thinking here though just to visualize my point since describing things back and forth isn’t as effective
https://elysium.baby/armis/comment-page-23/#comment-10552
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too many octoposse taking the critiques as a personal attack against octavio and they’re getting defensive i fear.
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Aside from the ears & humanoid shape, there isn’t much similarities. Maybe slightly overdesigned compared to other Armis mascots but I’m not really complaining. I think it’s cute the “showmen” talents have similar themes with each other.
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I said the color scheme is too similar not the design bro 😭😭
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im addressing everyone in this comment chain who said it looks like bettelion. its not just about you
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If the design looked like that without the jester ears and with a mainly blue colour palette it would be perfect. I get wanting some pink since Octavio has some too but it would’ve been better to have it just as tiny accents. The even spread of pink and purplish-blue is just undeniably too similar to Bettel’s aesthetic. It’s really a shame too since the design is definitely really cute but it’s overshadowed by the similarities
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Totally not inserting “can I copy your homework” meme.
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very cute. looked like it was made from kh.
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I’m shocked people think of Bettel’s mascot this is a KH inspired design down to the heart chest. Also Tavi has the cotton candy aesthetic, Bettelion are more flamboyant in their colour palette as well.
I think it did such a great job and he didn’t forget their round body! It’s super cute! Love it!!
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it really is reminiscent of a heartless
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Because they are lol hell even kh is in his lore name
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nta but it reminds me of hollow knight
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Totally not thinking about “at home” meme.
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Kinda reminds me weirdly of a bettelion and phantom version 2 fusion. It’s cute though just very bettel coded.
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if octavio is alleged child of bettel and flayon then poppet is alleged child of… phantom and…bettellion…?
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Or just lack of creativity.
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Totally not reminding me of certain character in Holostars en.
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looks similar to bettelion
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I’m so happy it isn’t another round mascot & he kept corruption mask
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I like the big boy mascots but I agree tbh. They’re so cute I want like 5 of these bad boys as a marketable plushie right now.
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Genuinely not trying to be inflammatory but does gibby try to get vods nuked on purpose or does he genuinely not know? I swear he’s probably one of the members of stars en in general who have had vods taken down by manes over doxx/perms and I feel like everyone else is really good about it usually?
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I think he’s just stupid and clumsy. And so far, I hadn’t seen anyone leaking that tiny face reveal except here. Though this is minor compared to Axel’s Christmas cake vod, lol.
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Wait is it a really obvious face reveal? I archived it without watching because I know his vods are prone to get nuked, didn’t know there was actual doxx in there.
Is it noticeable?
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Part of his face was shown in the reflection from the Uyu standee.
https://imgur.com/a/sBalDLo
As the anon said below, it’s just Ollie and Haachama’s accident.
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hakka did it once during a baking stream when he showed a pan of oil and his face clearly reflected in it.
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ngl i’m trying to figure out where’s the ‘face’ here. the only face was saw was uyu’s
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I don’t have a hard time seeing it but it was definitely more noticeable in motion so maybe that’s why
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It’s not fully his fault that uyu’s standee is reflective. This remind me of ollie and hachaama’s accident too 🫠
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I doubt he tried to purposely dox himself as someone who’s never (from my knowledge) shown his face..
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Tavi Mascot Reveal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1KtMxzvFH4
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WE CUTE
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