Seeing the boys get overwhelmed with affection and support on stream and cry is super endearing, but something still rubs me the wrong way when people are dead set on trying to make them cry. The Ruze stream yesterday was one of those times. Ruze may be one of the only boys to not outright cry on stream yet and it feels like that is almost treated as a challenge. Seeing him try to compose himself after inappropriate super chats and people celebrating that he’s sniffling/maybe crying just feels so gross. I don’t doubt he was also overwhelmed with genuine affection, but I’m begging you to stop cheering for tears.
it’s one thing to fluster the boys with love and support, but people actively cheering for a breakdown have always felt so off. let the boys be free with their emotions and how they want to express them.
As someone who saw both the anniversary karaoke where Axel ended up fully sobbing his heart out during the second half of TOTW and Altare breaking down in tears after the stress of the graduations finally got to him while singing the song Magni sang to him during a karaoke, seeing the boys break down crying lost a lot of the “yay we got him to cry!” funny angle, I’m gonna be honest with you.
Yeah celebrating them being overwhelmed with support is great, but cheering when they’re crying out of sadness is so gross, they’re not animal in a zoo they’re real hurting people in a vulnerable moment
Somehow, I think Octavio has one of the most normal fanbases among the Stars EN. Idk the others but I also believe the Hakkitos and Axelotls don’t have many delulu fans.
wont tell you how I know this, but one of the greatest anti-male vtubers schizo is an octopossey and has two accounts one to shit on Jurard and strike wars among fans, and one to praise Octavio and you would not even imagine who it is.
Octavio even refused to turn down Jurard when people complained that he was still too loud because that’s just who he is. He absolutely would not tolerate it.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand Ruze was offline all of today, no comment on his new group orisong, and cancelling his superchat reading tomorrow to be offline. I really really hope the Ruzaders re-assess the kinds of things they say to him both in livechat and in superchats, and that financial ability does not give you the right to weigh heavy on his mind in order to satisfy yourself. Homework is real, but also seeing the need to distance himself from all that emotionality.
cmon his excuse is literally on the tweet. on the screenshot. also he continued that zatsu after that bummer supa and finished on a good note. Let’s not speak for him, we are not his ambassadors lol that supa sucked but lets leave it at that
FFS, what are you? Ruze’s super fan who wants to kill all the critics like your life depends on it? Stop acting like you’re his wife or manager, you parasocial delulu loser.
yes yes we know trauma-dumping on talents is bad, but overprotecting him and assuming things like this also not a good thing. no one knows what inside their minds except themselves.
It’s not a superchat reading. He was literally going to make soup. He’s also 4 days late on an external deadline, and Shikamane can’t stall for him anymore. Yes, those SCs crossed a line, but it’s weird that you’re acting like you fully know just how it made him feel post-stream.
All handcams are superchat farms/reading, don’t act like he wasn’t going to be reading chat and placing importance on the messages and names sent to him and physically using them in relation to what he’s doing on stream. Now there’s no solo Ruze interaction stream until next week, with three big collab days lined up in a row.
I went ahead and watched the stream, holy shit, they actually made ruze walk from stream for 8 minutes my god. One thing is trying to empathize with the talent, another is to trigger him. Jesus
Only three mystery waiting rooms were put up and all three have been premiered, there’s no more after this. They get a lore VP, plushies, and one new orisong
tempus had a couple songs for their anniversary because there were delays and issues that caused them to be pushed back. armis didnt have any delays or anything 🤷♀️
There was an absolutely weird bottleneck with songs in the middle of the year. Unchained, Unlucky, Kronii’s new song, and a few of the JP girls songs all were MIA from streaming platforms for random amounts of time. Coupled with all of Holo having delayed/cancelled/problems with covers and projects until like…sheesh, August, I’m pretty confident in guessing that Cover had internal restructuring/management/department changes happen and it messed with everything.
…..huh? It’s long been proven that Vesper was planned to be in Woven Fates, but was taken out at some point either prior to the graduations or (obviously) afterwards. There’s still 2 pieces of art of him in the MV that you can see (one of a group shot of him with Altare, Axel, Bettel, and Shinri [which proves those 4 were always intended to sing the song], and one of just him), a spot on the wall when all the guys are singing at studio mics with covers they did behind them where Shinigami can barely be seen, and there are transitions that indicate 5 people were in the MV initially, not just 4.
The only ‘conspiracy’ from that time was if Magni was intended to be in Dead World, but as far as anyone can tell, he was never in it or if he was, he was removed very early on. (I believe back on the old site someone linked a Twitter thread from the person who made the MV, and they were asked if the it was changed between when they worked on it and when it debuted. They said that no changes were made and the MV that premiered is the one they worked on.)
Also where did you get that there were 2 songs prepared? Tempus had 6 (at one point 8) people, so of course they did multiple songs. Armis has 4, so they did what every other gen in Holo does and had an anniversary group song (see Myth, Council/Promise, Advent, etc.)
It’s better than I thought it was when it released, but it’s awkward since there’s a pause at 2:30 and then the next part sounds like a mini-version of the rest of the song but also very same-y. The first half was pretty fun, but it has a proper buildup and more variation in the instrumental.
I shudder to think what the original was like before Tavi forced them to change it.
downvote me if you want but the song sounds… confused? i don’t know the proper music terminology to describe it but it feels like it lacks a solid melody? flow? idk. i hope yall like more than i do tho 👍
It’s fine, we need all have our own preferences. My favorite would be solemn,, but the original song they uploaded was something new for me, so it gave quite a unique impact to my hearing.
this is the type of song you sing at the end of your 3d collab showcase. i can see it now. if armis are having guests then the guests should sing it with them. despite that, i prefer unchained over this.
May I interrupt the arguing below and ask if anyone is archiving Ruze’s guerilla LoL stream?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RERIF_MJP_c
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Since no one mentioned it yet: someone IS archiving it! A gofile link will be shared once it’s done
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“BuT, bUT, ruZe saID he Won’T be StREamiNg BecAUse oF tHe tRAuMa DuMpiNg sC”-delusional parasocial fan
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starting his 2nd year w/ League, i see
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someone archive Ruze’s league stream & my life is yours
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he broke his debut promise to never stream league. that’s it, i’m gonna anti him
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>unarchived (very rare on his channel unless karaoke or feet)
>drinking (said he would never do a drunk stream)
>League (said he would never stream league)
>”I’ve lost control of my life” tweet
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ruzaders… betrayed…
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batsu for . . . ruzaders?
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Seeing the boys get overwhelmed with affection and support on stream and cry is super endearing, but something still rubs me the wrong way when people are dead set on trying to make them cry. The Ruze stream yesterday was one of those times. Ruze may be one of the only boys to not outright cry on stream yet and it feels like that is almost treated as a challenge. Seeing him try to compose himself after inappropriate super chats and people celebrating that he’s sniffling/maybe crying just feels so gross. I don’t doubt he was also overwhelmed with genuine affection, but I’m begging you to stop cheering for tears.
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it’s one thing to fluster the boys with love and support, but people actively cheering for a breakdown have always felt so off. let the boys be free with their emotions and how they want to express them.
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As someone who saw both the anniversary karaoke where Axel ended up fully sobbing his heart out during the second half of TOTW and Altare breaking down in tears after the stress of the graduations finally got to him while singing the song Magni sang to him during a karaoke, seeing the boys break down crying lost a lot of the “yay we got him to cry!” funny angle, I’m gonna be honest with you.
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Yeah celebrating them being overwhelmed with support is great, but cheering when they’re crying out of sadness is so gross, they’re not animal in a zoo they’re real hurting people in a vulnerable moment
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Somehow, I think Octavio has one of the most normal fanbases among the Stars EN. Idk the others but I also believe the Hakkitos and Axelotls don’t have many delulu fans.
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Yeah, it’s kinda funny that the Braid Bros are the ones with the most normal fan bases.
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The toilet humor is working!
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maybe the toilet humor actually helps filter out the more problematic & parasocial fans
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gonna need someone to make this their thesis if peepeepoopoo jokes end up being the secret sauce
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It clearly isn’t cause look at caspurr and his toilet stories and yet he still has delulus
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I’d choose toilet humor everyday rather than a parasocial viewer in an Octavio stream.
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Braid bros and singers of their gen.
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wont tell you how I know this, but one of the greatest anti-male vtubers schizo is an octopossey and has two accounts one to shit on Jurard and strike wars among fans, and one to praise Octavio and you would not even imagine who it is.
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You should post your fanfiction to ao3 lol
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We don’t have this in the Octoposse and I’m a regular watcher. Octavio loathes this kind of behavior.
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Octavio even refused to turn down Jurard when people complained that he was still too loud because that’s just who he is. He absolutely would not tolerate it.
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damn you can’t just drop a bombshell like this on us and leave 😭
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why would an anti-male watch octavio?
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaand Ruze was offline all of today, no comment on his new group orisong, and cancelling his superchat reading tomorrow to be offline. I really really hope the Ruzaders re-assess the kinds of things they say to him both in livechat and in superchats, and that financial ability does not give you the right to weigh heavy on his mind in order to satisfy yourself. Homework is real, but also seeing the need to distance himself from all that emotionality.
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HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE WRONG NOW? RUZE IS PLAYING LEAGUE WITH BETTEL AND ALTARE. IT’S OK, YOU MAY SUCK MY DICK NOW.
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girl you gotta log off and stop being so invested
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“Gotta keep my promise to knock out homework…”’-Crimzon Ruze
Are we gonna ignore what he literally said and just put in our personal interpretation?
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cmon his excuse is literally on the tweet. on the screenshot. also he continued that zatsu after that bummer supa and finished on a good note. Let’s not speak for him, we are not his ambassadors lol that supa sucked but lets leave it at that
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FFS, what are you? Ruze’s super fan who wants to kill all the critics like your life depends on it? Stop acting like you’re his wife or manager, you parasocial delulu loser.
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Pot meet kettle. No one normal comes here let alone interacts lul
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yes yes we know trauma-dumping on talents is bad, but overprotecting him and assuming things like this also not a good thing. no one knows what inside their minds except themselves.
also, it’s a handcam stream.
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It’s not a superchat reading. He was literally going to make soup. He’s also 4 days late on an external deadline, and Shikamane can’t stall for him anymore. Yes, those SCs crossed a line, but it’s weird that you’re acting like you fully know just how it made him feel post-stream.
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All handcams are superchat farms/reading, don’t act like he wasn’t going to be reading chat and placing importance on the messages and names sent to him and physically using them in relation to what he’s doing on stream. Now there’s no solo Ruze interaction stream until next week, with three big collab days lined up in a row.
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You can just admit that you didn’t know that it was a handcam.
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I dont follow Ruze, but im nosy, what happened??
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check previous page
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I went ahead and watched the stream, holy shit, they actually made ruze walk from stream for 8 minutes my god. One thing is trying to empathize with the talent, another is to trigger him. Jesus
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…Ruze need to do another housekeeping session lmao
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now i wonder if there’s gonna be a 3rd and 4th orisong for armisversary like tempus did with theirs 👀
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Only three mystery waiting rooms were put up and all three have been premiered, there’s no more after this. They get a lore VP, plushies, and one new orisong
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tempus had a couple songs for their anniversary because there were delays and issues that caused them to be pushed back. armis didnt have any delays or anything 🤷♀️
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Their song is now available on streaming platforms too unlike “Unchained” and Bettel’s “Unlucky” which took them weeks to put them there.
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There was an absolutely weird bottleneck with songs in the middle of the year. Unchained, Unlucky, Kronii’s new song, and a few of the JP girls songs all were MIA from streaming platforms for random amounts of time. Coupled with all of Holo having delayed/cancelled/problems with covers and projects until like…sheesh, August, I’m pretty confident in guessing that Cover had internal restructuring/management/department changes happen and it messed with everything.
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hmm idk i’m still a ‘vesper was supposed to be in woven fates’ truther so to me there was at least 2 songs prepared
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…..huh? It’s long been proven that Vesper was planned to be in Woven Fates, but was taken out at some point either prior to the graduations or (obviously) afterwards. There’s still 2 pieces of art of him in the MV that you can see (one of a group shot of him with Altare, Axel, Bettel, and Shinri [which proves those 4 were always intended to sing the song], and one of just him), a spot on the wall when all the guys are singing at studio mics with covers they did behind them where Shinigami can barely be seen, and there are transitions that indicate 5 people were in the MV initially, not just 4.
The only ‘conspiracy’ from that time was if Magni was intended to be in Dead World, but as far as anyone can tell, he was never in it or if he was, he was removed very early on. (I believe back on the old site someone linked a Twitter thread from the person who made the MV, and they were asked if the it was changed between when they worked on it and when it debuted. They said that no changes were made and the MV that premiered is the one they worked on.)
Also where did you get that there were 2 songs prepared? Tempus had 6 (at one point 8) people, so of course they did multiple songs. Armis has 4, so they did what every other gen in Holo does and had an anniversary group song (see Myth, Council/Promise, Advent, etc.)
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Armis 2nd original song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJeU1qdVIDQ
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It’s better than I thought it was when it released, but it’s awkward since there’s a pause at 2:30 and then the next part sounds like a mini-version of the rest of the song but also very same-y. The first half was pretty fun, but it has a proper buildup and more variation in the instrumental.
I shudder to think what the original was like before Tavi forced them to change it.
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downvote me if you want but the song sounds… confused? i don’t know the proper music terminology to describe it but it feels like it lacks a solid melody? flow? idk. i hope yall like more than i do tho 👍
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It’s fine, we need all have our own preferences. My favorite would be solemn,, but the original song they uploaded was something new for me, so it gave quite a unique impact to my hearing.
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According to Tavi, it’s a jazz song. You can listen to his zatsu where he explains the process.
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That was also Tavi’s reaction the first time he heard it and gave feedback. He also said it was confusing and they changed musical directions
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That’s why he joked on Twitter about privating it and releasing it next year.
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Tavi’s going to have a post-song zatsu in a few hours. He said he has some involvement in the production.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dedOD0yShTI
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this is the type of song you sing at the end of your 3d collab showcase. i can see it now. if armis are having guests then the guests should sing it with them. despite that, i prefer unchained over this.
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Happy
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