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December 10, 2024 1:23 am
I know that chatter’s name indicate who their other oshi is but jeez on their SC bringing them up. They weren’t in the latest Monthly Ruzolve, were they? The time was not SEAzader friendly.
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Were they also the one who had Advent members’ names in their handle before Justice debuted? I thought they were a troll.
im just going to believe super socially inept and mentally not the healthiest with this one. met people like that both online and rl just move along imo.
Known troll (or socially inept SEA fan), they also showed up in the other boys’ chats in the past with the same type of cringe SCs bringing the girls up.
I was put off hearing Ruze read that soup aloud. Not the time to advertise even if it involves an Armis member because that Armis member isn’t Ruze. They weren’t even the ruzader being drawn onscreen.
I genuinely wish Ruze would start skipping soups. I know that’s a big part of his appeal in that everyone gets to feel included, but it might finally deter a lot of this attention grabbing behavior.
Also during the POE 2 surprise collab with Shinri and Axel, if felt really weird to see a soup that said “I think we need to k-word Axel agreed?”. That one left a bad taste in my mouth as someone who oshis both guys….
Same, I feel so awkward since it’s not the first time I’ve seen some iffy messages about Axel. Also saw some messages complaining about Jurard being there in a weekly collab at one point and was absolutely baffled. Like that’s his genmate, don’t say it in chat. The other boys aren’t props; they’re his friends! Plus, if Ruze ACTUALLY had a problem, he’d talk to them!More recently he felt the need to constantly reiterate, “do NOT attack Jurard for this; don’t even mention it to him. He didn’t know.” re: session 1 reflections and Jurard making sound effects over him. Sucks that it’s a precaution that he had to take.
I’ve seen people blame “tumblr sjws,” which is…sort of true, but I don’t think it’s the same way that people are thinking of. 2012 tumblr, along with Homestuck itself, had its own style of humor that you can tell has influenced Ruze and likely attracted other people who were teens and college students during that era. Most obvious one is the detailed overly-specific and goofy descriptions he uses for insults. I also have no idea why, but a LOT of people from that era also got into Dungeons and Dragons.
Nowadays, the 2012 tumblr crowd is about 25-40, with jobs and discretionary funds. Some of these people never grew up, so now we get this.
When you say “numberfag”, was that person talking about CCV or SC/menshi? Cause I’ve seen both and it’s honestly really more gross for people to keep doing the latter.
I see so many people in ruzader discord who will not shut the fuck about sc/gifted numbers. What’s weirder is it’s people who openly say they don’t really support him and hope they get a gifted membership each month, so it’s extra weird to flex other people’s support when you had nothing to do with it.
Also related to numbers, Ruze has reiterated he doesn’t really care about them other than using it to see what people do or don’t like, yet people can’t stop bringing up his sub count either. He’s made it clear he isn’t in a hurry to reach milestones if it isn’t genuine growth.
Not OP but I assume it’s the latter. Ruze said “You guys helped me pay Little Lady’s vet bills… but don’t you shove it to people’s faces”. Then he continues with how not everybody can support their oshi like ruzaders can so don’t make it a competition. It’s hurtful to other talents and their fans, and it’ll make Ruze look like a dick.
I got to the part of the VOD where he mentions that he saw some people going, “oh, we’re so much better than Hololive fans!” and I’m low-key horrified.
I’ve seen some weird self-brags about “Ruzaders are so generous” when it comes to money, and it’s been so off-putting for some of them to have fostered that sort of attitude within the community. Ruze was my second-most watched this year, but I don’t want to interact with other fans because of this kind of thing.
Yeah I had seen Tweets months back bragging about superchat numbers and menshi gifts in a “pat ourselves on the back Ruzaders are so great” kind of way, and it’s pretty depressing to see that that mentality has only gotten worse.
These people aren’t even the ones dropping the big numbers, but are still cashing in on the clout by virtue of being a “ruzader” I guess? It’s really weird to see.
Just in general, I see more people clipping streamers saying their name/reacting to their sc than things that would get any new viewers which is a real shame.
i bet that’s the plan. liz is releasing covers of carols starting with let it snow x3 followed by the christmas song (the one that starts with “chestnuts roasting on an open fire”) on the 11th. they could duet one or both songs. if she’s releasing a third or more christmas cover then they could sing that instead. imagine if they duet on a christmas song during octalks then the official cover releases right after the stream.
I’m still amazed that “stay on topic in chat”, “no trauma dumping”, and “if they aren’t a StarsEN debut I don’t care” really needs to be repeated so often for Ruzaders.
Any reason why Ruze didn’t do this housekeeping stuff like… at the start of regular stream (like Jurard)? I think some ppl purposely avoid Ruzolve stream.
Jurard starting with a half-hour long zatsu is fairly normal while Ruze typically jumps right into the game. Last time I remember Ruze addressing it during a regular stream, he tacked it onto the end.
Analytics wise, it takes about an hour for everyone to trickle into a stream, which is right when Ruze started going over housekeeping.
Yeah the recent FSP debuts really shows how uninformed they are. Vtuber siblings are a cute goofy gimmick when the talents themselves wanna make a deal of it, but otherwise it’s literally just companies hiring the same artist and fans should let it go. that behavior likely solidified those 2 will never really interact.
This reminds me of what oga said about his relationship with his model artist, he said he views it purely for business only that’s why he doesn’t do that mama/papa thing lol
makes me wonder how many ruzaders are new to chatting during livestreams. that doesn’t excuse the longtime viewers who were around in his last housekeeping session, though.
A lot of Armis fans in general are new to vtubing and especially the etiquette that comes with corporate vtubers. Dokigeddon got a lot of normie eyes on vtubers as a whole and new fans need a lot of reminding
Adding that I agree with everything above, but felt a need to add some context
Those fans I can fully understand but there are a lot of 6+ month badge members that still act like chat is a Discord general. And they have definitely heard Ruze talk about all this before, so it’s just confusing why it’s still a problem.
As an 11-month old Ruzader that didn’t watch streamers or vtubers until Armis, chat etiquette isn’t hard to pick up on. The behavior almost seems willful.
For some serial rule-breaking viewers, it doesn’t seem like a fluency issue if you consider their behaviors in other spaces
ngl I nearly burst out laughing with the “RUZE MY DOG DIED LET’S GOOOOOOOOO” mention because that was exactly what I thought about during that traumadump moment
I know that chatter’s name indicate who their other oshi is but jeez on their SC bringing them up. They weren’t in the latest Monthly Ruzolve, were they? The time was not SEAzader friendly.
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im just going to believe super socially inept and mentally not the healthiest with this one. met people like that both online and rl just move along imo.
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That guy have so many bait accounts used as sc baits. A Singaporean with mental illness.
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were they the same one with the shiori pfp before that was scing other stars boys asking them who their justice oshi is?
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Known troll (or socially inept SEA fan), they also showed up in the other boys’ chats in the past with the same type of cringe SCs bringing the girls up.
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I was put off hearing Ruze read that soup aloud. Not the time to advertise even if it involves an Armis member because that Armis member isn’t Ruze. They weren’t even the ruzader being drawn onscreen.
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I genuinely wish Ruze would start skipping soups. I know that’s a big part of his appeal in that everyone gets to feel included, but it might finally deter a lot of this attention grabbing behavior.
Also during the POE 2 surprise collab with Shinri and Axel, if felt really weird to see a soup that said “I think we need to k-word Axel agreed?”. That one left a bad taste in my mouth as someone who oshis both guys….
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Same, I feel so awkward since it’s not the first time I’ve seen some iffy messages about Axel. Also saw some messages complaining about Jurard being there in a weekly collab at one point and was absolutely baffled. Like that’s his genmate, don’t say it in chat. The other boys aren’t props; they’re his friends! Plus, if Ruze ACTUALLY had a problem, he’d talk to them!More recently he felt the need to constantly reiterate, “do NOT attack Jurard for this; don’t even mention it to him. He didn’t know.” re: session 1 reflections and Jurard making sound effects over him. Sucks that it’s a precaution that he had to take.
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He doesn’t even have to read the message aloud. “Thanks for the soup, (insert name)” would suffice.
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Numberfag Ruzader got called out on stream let’s gooooooooooooooo
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Damn this thread made me feel bad for Ruze all over again for somehow getting straddled with such weird and embarrassing fans.
Seriously though, this is not the kinda fanbase I expected someone with his personality to attract, what the hell happened?
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I’ve seen people blame “tumblr sjws,” which is…sort of true, but I don’t think it’s the same way that people are thinking of. 2012 tumblr, along with Homestuck itself, had its own style of humor that you can tell has influenced Ruze and likely attracted other people who were teens and college students during that era. Most obvious one is the detailed overly-specific and goofy descriptions he uses for insults. I also have no idea why, but a LOT of people from that era also got into Dungeons and Dragons.
Nowadays, the 2012 tumblr crowd is about 25-40, with jobs and discretionary funds. Some of these people never grew up, so now we get this.
To sum: “he’s just like me fr fr”
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When you say “numberfag”, was that person talking about CCV or SC/menshi? Cause I’ve seen both and it’s honestly really more gross for people to keep doing the latter.
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I see so many people in ruzader discord who will not shut the fuck about sc/gifted numbers. What’s weirder is it’s people who openly say they don’t really support him and hope they get a gifted membership each month, so it’s extra weird to flex other people’s support when you had nothing to do with it.
Also related to numbers, Ruze has reiterated he doesn’t really care about them other than using it to see what people do or don’t like, yet people can’t stop bringing up his sub count either. He’s made it clear he isn’t in a hurry to reach milestones if it isn’t genuine growth.
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Not OP but I assume it’s the latter. Ruze said “You guys helped me pay Little Lady’s vet bills… but don’t you shove it to people’s faces”. Then he continues with how not everybody can support their oshi like ruzaders can so don’t make it a competition. It’s hurtful to other talents and their fans, and it’ll make Ruze look like a dick.
Report
I got to the part of the VOD where he mentions that he saw some people going, “oh, we’re so much better than Hololive fans!” and I’m low-key horrified.
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Jesus Christ, you can’t be serious.
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I’ve seen some weird self-brags about “Ruzaders are so generous” when it comes to money, and it’s been so off-putting for some of them to have fostered that sort of attitude within the community. Ruze was my second-most watched this year, but I don’t want to interact with other fans because of this kind of thing.
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Yeah I had seen Tweets months back bragging about superchat numbers and menshi gifts in a “pat ourselves on the back Ruzaders are so great” kind of way, and it’s pretty depressing to see that that mentality has only gotten worse.
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These people aren’t even the ones dropping the big numbers, but are still cashing in on the clout by virtue of being a “ruzader” I guess? It’s really weird to see.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/HoloStatistics/comments/1ha5u7j/20241208_superchat_leaders_weekly_top_10/
nta, but they were reposting that chart (according to them, i never got the chance to see the now-deleted tweet) on twitter.
but anyway, the person already apologize for it. let’s hope it’ll never happen again.
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timestamp por favor?
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it was 10 mins into the stream
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Can’t believe this kind of shit had to be mentioned again, he already asked the ruzaders to stop this behavior during his birthday zatsu (iirc).
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sounds like Ruzaders need to clip his rule recaps for all those who don’t keep up with streams
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clip AND make them viral. somebody made a clip of ruze setting his boundaries regarding shipping months ago yet he had to reiterate them AGAIN less than a week ago.
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Just in general, I see more people clipping streamers saying their name/reacting to their sc than things that would get any new viewers which is a real shame.
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The Jurard drought is getting to me… I’m turning to dust….
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banchou… uuueeee *rolls away*
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The next guest for this month’s Octalks radio is Liz! Go and submit your questions if you have T2 membership.
https://x.com/octavio_holo/status/1866309378971959610
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i hope they do some christmas song duets
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i bet that’s the plan. liz is releasing covers of carols starting with let it snow x3 followed by the christmas song (the one that starts with “chestnuts roasting on an open fire”) on the 11th. they could duet one or both songs. if she’s releasing a third or more christmas cover then they could sing that instead. imagine if they duet on a christmas song during octalks then the official cover releases right after the stream.
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I cant belive Ruze streamed for almost 12 hours today. He missed us
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I swear this is Shika-mane and Toki-mane’s doing.
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1865946973460713515
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My biggest question is who shibari’d the Poppet loool
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RUZETAVIO ON THE TELLYYYYYYYY
They are so dang cute together I love theeeeeeeeeem
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I’m still amazed that “stay on topic in chat”, “no trauma dumping”, and “if they aren’t a StarsEN debut I don’t care” really needs to be repeated so often for Ruzaders.
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Any reason why Ruze didn’t do this housekeeping stuff like… at the start of regular stream (like Jurard)? I think some ppl purposely avoid Ruzolve stream.
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Jurard starting with a half-hour long zatsu is fairly normal while Ruze typically jumps right into the game. Last time I remember Ruze addressing it during a regular stream, he tacked it onto the end.
Analytics wise, it takes about an hour for everyone to trickle into a stream, which is right when Ruze started going over housekeeping.
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I’m pretty sure that some don’t watch Ruzolves nor read the desc.
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Yeah the recent FSP debuts really shows how uninformed they are. Vtuber siblings are a cute goofy gimmick when the talents themselves wanna make a deal of it, but otherwise it’s literally just companies hiring the same artist and fans should let it go. that behavior likely solidified those 2 will never really interact.
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This reminds me of what oga said about his relationship with his model artist, he said he views it purely for business only that’s why he doesn’t do that mama/papa thing lol
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makes me wonder how many ruzaders are new to chatting during livestreams. that doesn’t excuse the longtime viewers who were around in his last housekeeping session, though.
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A lot of Armis fans in general are new to vtubing and especially the etiquette that comes with corporate vtubers. Dokigeddon got a lot of normie eyes on vtubers as a whole and new fans need a lot of reminding
Adding that I agree with everything above, but felt a need to add some context
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Those fans I can fully understand but there are a lot of 6+ month badge members that still act like chat is a Discord general. And they have definitely heard Ruze talk about all this before, so it’s just confusing why it’s still a problem.
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As an 11-month old Ruzader that didn’t watch streamers or vtubers until Armis, chat etiquette isn’t hard to pick up on. The behavior almost seems willful.
For some serial rule-breaking viewers, it doesn’t seem like a fluency issue if you consider their behaviors in other spaces
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ngl I nearly burst out laughing with the “RUZE MY DOG DIED LET’S GOOOOOOOOO” mention because that was exactly what I thought about during that traumadump moment
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Let’s hope it actually works and we don’t get anymore unprompted trauma dumping
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