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nonnies maybe i’m being paranoid but isn’t it weird that we know a bunch of the fandom including the talents read here and yet only one or two schizos keep commenting here? if people outside their clique are reading here then some bnfs must be too. did they just pick some idiot to rep them or did that anon not get the memo or what?
are we sure it’s not a tourist like what’s been happening with FSP on the OT page? or are some of the bnfs dumb dumbs and they’re joining in on the complaints not realizing they’re the ones being complained about?
i just think something doesn’t add up. maybe it’s a schizo but what if it’s bait?
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Some people are genuinely that dense…and when those people feel like they’re being ganged up on by “asshole outsiders who don’t get it”, they double down. Never mind that a good chunk of us complaining here are probably Ruzaders who can’t publicly speak out about it.
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Sorry to tell ya but some fans really are this shit nonnie cause in Ruzes case the stupidity here is definitely reflected in chat so…
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ia i’ve just noticed this page and OT seem targeted by astroturfing. they target a trending topic and then try to egg nonnies on. first it was gibby, then it was jurard and i think even octavio a little bit ago. now ruze is the hot topic and i think it’s too convenient that it’s just one or two anons.
it’s like the zany anon, maybe they’re the same person? didn’t they spam the zany emoji in that convo about trauma dumping?
i think when they come back it’s not worth engaging, if they still haven’t learned after all this they’re not going to, and if they’re a troll then responding just gives them what they want.
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The fact that Ruze tapped the rules back on the monthly ruzade, his BNFs still didn’t get it, and he had to type this in chat today, and they STILL didn’t get it and continued their assholery for a good twelve minutes is just shameful. If you’re turning up to a stream, PAY ATTENTION TO THE STREAMER. IT’S NOT YOUR CHAT, the chat is there to CELEBRATE HIM.
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Ooooooh! Imma definitely try to catch up on the first two-thirds of the art stream! 🍿🍿🍿
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He needs mods so bad, his chat is too much.
Part of why I initially felt comfy there was knowing if he really didn’t like something he would handle it but it looks like the tidal wave of bullshit has won at this point and overwhelmed his singular control
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none of the boys have mods so it’s safe to assume they’re not allowed to have them.
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Shinri has talked about trying to find mods so they are definitely allowed to have them.
I think finding good ones is the hard part and approvals is probably what’s stopping them
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He is free to ban these retards at anytime but you know how stars are. They will get walked all over on before losing a viewer.
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I know I just thought Ruze was different is all
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all of them do. nobody in holopro has mods, not even the girls. either cover has no idea how chats can be or that they just couldn’t be bothered to pay for them, and fans are suffering for it.
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Guys, please assure me that I just got trolled. Someone said Ruze had to afk and his chat started talking about the FSP boys like almost right away. I beg of you to tell me I got one guyed.
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it’s one of the greyname suddenly throwing that topic i think. most of the ruzader kinda ignore that message.
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I vaguely remember their username from boys shouting out SCs; I think they’re at least starmin
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Phew good.
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when it gets to the point that being audio only/lurking/closing chat isn’t sufficient, there’s a real big issue. i’ve been a lurker for months now, but it’s starting to affect stream quality. this shit made me drop bettel, and i really hope it gets sorted out before it makes me drop ruze too.
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sending love to the decently hinged ruzaders: yall are in the trenches rn
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I think in regards of Rule No.5, Ruze also need to add “Don’t change the topic to other people, including yourself.
There are multiple times those things happened, through soup or pre-chat, when the stream suddenly revolve around themselves for couple minutes. Some people need reminder to be mindful to others sadly.
Also, i wish Ruze would stop responding to “gn/bye Ruze” chat everytime someone’s leaving his stream.
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I mean, if you watched the Ruzade, this is exactly what he said. It was threaded into the no traumadumping rule as well – don’t overly focus on yourself, bring up your own offtopic nonsense, and especially don’t do that if it’s quite emotionally heavy. I don’t know how anybody could miss that he was asking chat not to talk about themselves when he said “I don’t care if your dog did a backflip, stay on topic in chat”.
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I really don’t know what the fuck else Ruze can do at this point. He’s fighting against people who don’t seem to give a shit that he has rules since they seem to think those don’t apply to them.
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another Ruzader yapping session page, let’s goooooooooo
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also, hi Ruze (if you’re really here). love your works so far, eventhough i barely catch your stream. pretty excited for the annual survey, cause some things can be out of hand in here. thank you~
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Hey Ruzaders who kept talking about “oh the gentle parenting method for chat is best”? Yeah, it’s clearly not fucking working. No one learned anything from a Ruzolve and him straight up shaming some behavior.
Also look, I love Ruze, I really do, but clearly the creative insult/punishment attitude and disguising rule correction under tsundere banter is not getting through to these people. It clearly has to be straightforward “stop doing this, it’s against chat rules” and just repeat ad nauseum until people get it or, as shitty as this sounds, it drives the people out who clearly can’t handle his rules and boundaries.
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Here’s the sad thing: He 100% has straightforward told them to stop multiple times in an obviously serious tone when he goes “just a bit of housekeeping” and always explains WHY he has those rules when he goes over them. They just. Don’t. Listen.
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Dude needs to start handing out time outs/temp bans. It’s disrespectful to the other viewers that he lets an unruly part of chat delay and derail his own stream.
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it’s obvious he reads here too and is fed up, the white knight anons are probably the ones acting this way in chat and are coming here to whitewash their bad behavior. he needs better fans.
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Oh yeah that one weirdo who was like “I’M NOT A WHITE KNIGHT! I’M JUST PROTECTING RUZE’S MONETARY INCOME AND HIS COMMUNITY THAT YOU DON’T ~ VIBE ~ WITH”.
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The fact that Ms. “I have a very distinct typing style, you probably recognise me, Ruze’s BNF chat culture is good actually, y’all haters, Ruze would be ashamed of you” isn’t here today is… telling. I wonder which loud, mouthy fan got told off.
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Nah, they just haven’t come here yet. I’m betting they’ll come check here after Ruze is done streaming and then all of a sudden we’ll see someone being combative when literally no one else has been.
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yeah probably too busy chatting on stream to check here
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I remember my jaw dropped when they talked about “protecting Ruze’s income.” Sane people don’t say shit like that wtf
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In response to being told that Ruze said that he doesn’t need protection, too, my god. Legit just took what their oshi said and tried to carve out an exception for themselves.
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and they also tried to turn it around on us lmao like the pack of self-awareness is astounding. his fans need to practice actionable listening next time he talks about being self-aware bc they’re a mess. actually laughable that anon wanted to argue they’re not one of the worst fandoms
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and by some crazy coincidence his community actually requires us all to be nice to his bnfs that do everything for him and we all know he loves and adores because he responded to their tweets one time last march. also definitely not written by a bnf, just a concerned citizen passing by.
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i’m fucking stupid because i still don’t know what bnf means
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big name fan
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im confused are we talking about the fans he interacts most with or just the regulars in his chat? not all regulars are bnfs and not all bnfs are regulars
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The BNFs are basically people in the fanbase who are…recognizable, I guess. Like not your oomfies or whatever, but you see them and you’re aware that they made X or done Y. They’re usually the really good artists, the active clippers and shitposters, or the big spenders.
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…like Tako then?
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Well, technically yes but they’re not even a Bubby now, let alone an active BNF amongst Bubbies (IDK whether they’re considered a BNF amongst the Kois, tho, haven’t been a very active Koi myself plus I blocked them on all social medias and on chat so that I don’t have to see them for my own sake). Some folks on my side of the pond who had been around since the days T was an active member of the community don’t really like to talk about them anymore, myself included. The whole situation was certainly a wake-up call for both Gibby and the Bubbies, and I personally think every community/fandom WILL have their own wake-up call moment sooner or later, and I guess it’s safe to say that it’s Ruze and the Ruzaders’ turn now.
I do hope that things will get better for y’all, I do mean it! I’ve dropped by the chat every now and then and hanging out with the Ruzaders has been fun, and seeing that Ruze and you guys have been having issues with certain people not following chat etiquette is concerning to me too (｡•́︿•̀｡) Hang in there! Here’s to a healthier fanbase!
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but some of his bnfs who he even follows are barely active in chat at all, anons should be more specific about who theyre talking about instead of just saying bnf in general, it gives the impression that they’re all bad but it seems like it’s more just a handful than all the popular ones
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Yeah, lumping all of them into one group isn’t fair, but we’re really all just subtweeting since naming and shaming is against the rules or something. People should know who is being talked about anyway, “if the shoe fits”, yeah?
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Christ, you can’t even say, “just close chat.” At this point, they’re directly impacting every single viewer’s enjoyment of the stream. Literally.
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I understand the hate on Argentinian currency, hopefully we elect someone like Milei for our economy to bloom.
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Oh no, please don’t think that the hate is directed to the Argentinian currency. It’s more towards a few people who take advantage of the situation to spam gifted memberships or buy high tier memberships. My heart goes out to Argentinians in these trying times. I hope the country recovers very very soon.
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He hates us but for real no doubt for sure absolutely
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https://x.com/crimzonruze/status/1868601262067134916
jokes on you, i’m into that shit
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jurard kind of annoys me (dont get it twisted i love him, his energy is too much for me personally) but lately… idk im kind of falling for him help!!
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“don’t ignore me I’m ignoring you” kind of post is back. Let’s gooooooo
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Ryona will help you meld those two sentiments
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He’s one of those people that grows on you over time. After his debut I thought the energy and volume would be too much for me, but I ended up basically only watching him from Armis after a week or so. When you hear him talk a bit more seriously you really start to understand his good points.
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my penis grow everytime he moans on stream
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it’s the opposite for me. he was kamioshi level at first but as time went on I realized watching him be stupid wasn’t fun anymore.
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That happened with me over Bettel. I’m sad about it but it just is what it is.
Sometimes what you need in an oshi changes and who you oshi no longer fits that need.
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This is why I don’t understand fans who put oshi marks next to their name pre-debut.
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God, I feel you on that. There’s only so much “I’m useless teehee” and “this makes me look like an asshole, haha!” that I can stomach until its like okay bro, you’re not even trying to improve, just using this as a shield to be your worst self. I haven’t gotten that vibe from banchou yet because as much as he is a boyfailure he really tries his hardest to meet all his goals and grow for the future.
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Exactly, imo idols are supposed to inspire you to work hard and grow.
And he did that for me and I grew a lot, but as you said he didnt grow and stayed the same, a tragedy really to outgrow your oshi.
I will always appreciate him for the inspiration he gave me even if i had to leave him behind
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WARNING: IMMERSION & KAYFABE BREAK
[spoiler title=” “] Grow in what way? I can understand fans who demand for more quality content or consistent upload. But a change in personality? Jurard’s model and character (‘dumb & dangerous’; the arrogant but incompetent money-hungry scammer) were designed by an entire team. That took planning and consideration of the market demands. Although a character development may be appreciated by some fans, we have to remember that there are others who would be resistant to it.
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This was about bettel. Imo jurard is growing and becoming more confident and reaching the stars as he says, i am cheering him on
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I’m the person who responded to your comment. Apologies for the misunderstanding. For some reason, every comment shows up as a reply to OP. I didn’t realise that you were referring to a different holostar. 🙁
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That’s ok! You can’t see the format for reply threading on mobile, but it is there and staggered if you use desktop/PC.
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I am no longer amused my incompetent men, I deal with too many irl so it’s hard to find the boy failure act charming when it’s laid on so thick all the time.
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Jurard at least feeds my fantasy that they can take feedback instead of yelling at me and telling me it’s my problem.
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100% i havent given up on him cause he tries so hard and doesnt make my support feel wasted
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this post smells like dirty dino fingers
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Big day for fellow Golden Shower fetish enjoyer
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ARS gift spammers don’t superchat so people don’t know they’re using ARS is so scummy. I feel so bad for Octavio.
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Another way is to use hololyzer, it shows currency used for each supa if you don’t want to go check the vods for each supa
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just out of curiosity, but how did you guys know if someone gifted membership in ARS? is it from the amount of gift? or just backtracking the person if they ever send superchat in ARS?
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Backtracking or remembering from previous superchat sent. This person used to spam akasupas until the Merryweather tweet happened.
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There’s more than a few that used to supa regularly in ars and only gift now, not sneaky as they think.
The archives never forget
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Superchats are easy, you can see it in the amount. For gifteds the easiest way to note that they’re a spammer is that they’ll send multiple 50 bombs in rapid succession (like minutes apart).
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Hm, not always the case. Some are just really rich. You have to catch them sending a supa.
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That’s what we are talking about, people who have sent ars in the past spamming 50 gifted regularly
One of them in particular used to spam akas in ARS now doesn’t but still spams multi 50 gifted in a row.
Did you know 5 akas in ARS ends up being around 5 US dollars? It’s stealing content from Tavi at this point.
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still a pretty shitty move nonetheless, but isn’t your example closer to 25 dollars? assuming they go for the most expensive aka every time
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Nonnie, convert 5000 ARS to USD. It’s not $25.
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Misunderstood the comment above because I thought it meant generally. I swore I saw that Tavi has someone who gifts a lot but in another currency could be PHP which is also minutes apart. I also know that T6 in ARS is $3.
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when it says ARS currency on the gift amount, someone posted a picture of it
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someone?
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https://elysium.baby/armis/comment-page-58/#comment-21066
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(anon who posted that pic) Sorry I wasn’t clear about it but those were superchats. Gifted membership notifications don’t show the price even in Hololyzer.
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Recently in axel’s stream he said that he didn’t mind the amount that people gave him because he appreciate any support. Good for him and that just him it’s his opinion in his own stream. But i think these ars gift spammers took his word and run with it because they feel like their action is valid now. And it’s shitty that they are doing this to the rest of the boys.
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Buy a membership now to help even it out!
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I’m out of the loop, what’s ARS gift?
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ARS is Argentine peso. Why is this currency frowned upon? Let me demonstrate with the attached pic as an example. Observe what the conversion rate is to yen.
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I’ve said before that I truly do feel bad for the fans who are genuinely from Argentina and know their currency is worth nothing…but I still believe that YouTube should just banning ARS from buying anything on the platform. Especially since absolute fuckwits use it to spam 50 gifted bombs.
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Most the people spamming memb gifts probably aren’t Argentinian though, they are just abusing the currency.
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…..yeah, that’s most people’s point. It’s easy to abuse the currency and happened to the girls and boys multiple times. It’s why most people say either banning making purchases with the currency or making the ARS prices actually equivalent to all other currencies is the only way to stop it from being abused.
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the solution is much much more simple… just up the ARS prices. a red supa is the same price as a gallon of milk lmfao just make it cost more
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another solution is for the boys to make another tier at $6 which becomes the new “base” tier that has membership content. gifts only go up to the $5 tier at highest
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believe it or not, somehow it’s even cheaper than that. a bag of milk (1 litre) on Argentina tends to cost around 1500 pesos while an akasupa ranges from 1000 to 5000
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It’s cheap because it is supposed to be scaled so that the average person can access it financially. Most people send blue to orange supa or 5 gifted, maybe 10 gifted in their native currency. That’s how you can tell real argentinians is they live by average means and give what they can to their oshi out the goodness of their heart. People exploiting cheap ARS just to LOOK like whale supporters without actually being one are too obvious because very very few people send multiple hundreds of gifted or multiple akasupas per stream.
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in theory yes but the inflation of ARS is not consistent with youtube’s current conversion. a red superchat is a luxury, in other currencies it can buy a family groceries for a week.
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fun math! as of June 2024, it costs about 400,000 ARS to feed a family of 4 for a month. so one week’s groceries would be 100 akasupas for Argentina.
(except the rate of inflation is so wild that it’s definitely more than 100 akasupas now, but June 2024 was the most recent data I could find)
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Argentina is going through through massive inflation, which is why that person brought up an akasupa being the cost of a litre of milk, though it’s likely even less now. Current poverty line for a family of 4 is 900,000 ARS per month. An akasupa isn’t worth much to even people who live in Argentina.
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And if they do superchat, it’s in unarchived karaoke. Very sneaky.
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Right. I’ve noticed this behavior too. They already make assets for him so I don’t know why they want to get more attention by spamming $3 worth 50 gifted and upgrading to his T6.
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I’m like “I don’t know if making free assets is enough to compensate…” since the gifting hasn’t stopped.
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Got worse today with 60 gifted rip funds for December. Hopefully other supas can cover the costs of that.
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There are people who never buy their own membrshops because of how many gifts are always flying and it pisses me off so much.
Every time ive caught one i upgrade to t3 just in case because i feel guilty
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Bragging about never buying your membership/coasting off gifted (if you are able to buy your own) has always been weird, and ARS gifts bombs make it so much worse.
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I hope someone saves jurard’s path of exile vod since he goofed up lmao
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Do you still need the VOD? This was posted over 24 hours ago in /mans/. Hope it’s still up for you. https://gofile.io/d/SdvTRr
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I don’t think we have any dedicated Jurard archivists in sorawrity yet sadly.
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Chat told Jurard that there is a spammer. Jurard can’t find spammer. “Can you spam again so I can block you?” 😆
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I love him so much.
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He really was challenging bro to come out. XD
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I just opened his stream and why did it become a geology class? lmao. Did the game crashed or something?
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call of the tide pods too strong
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he downloaded the wrong game (poe1). now he’s waiting for poe2 to download….in a day…maybe…
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he was linked the wrong game and played it on stream so the vod is going to get trimmed, but right now we’re just looking at rocks while waiting for his download LMAO
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he’s finally playing the game after four hours of entertainment.
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