I think all the girls are friendly with the boys behind the scenes (i remember Hakka’s playful banter with GG’s pl was cute), but on stream only few are as forward about it as ERB. All my respect to her for beeing so open about it.
If it’s profitable, they’ll collab, if not, they won’t. For the majority at least. I think some of the more idol purist ones like FWMC, maybe Kiara, probably never male collab and while I admire the dedication to a culture they’ve loved from a young age I have mixed feelings about anything that caters so heavily to male delusions of ownership over women.
I respect Kiara’s decision because she does have androphobia for what I understand.
Personally, I also had intense case of both androphobia and the extremely rare case of actual misandry. I actually started watching Stars as exposure therapy. and I’m really healing tons thanks to them (I even interact with the guys at work now!) but not everyone can heal that way, so I can give Kiara a bit of leverage and everyone has their own healing time/way.
Hi, part-time KFP here. Kiara doesn’t really have androphobia… she has irl male friends that she sometimes mentions during her tangents and even very early in her Holo career she did collabs with irl males like Gigguk in a Shadowverse tournament or a male game dev from the Tales Of series, and even in the very beginning of HolostarsEN she mentioned being proud of the EN branch during their predebut and would occasionally mention them like the Magging Time meme or the fact that she wanted to join Axel’s group song collab, but all the spots were taken before she could respond.
She stays away from mentioning Holostars nowadays because of all the antis that she just doesn’t want to deal with because she has a long history of (and ongoing issue with) harassment from unicorns, her own antis, and irl stalkers that have followed her to conventions despite her asking them to stop. She has become very risk averse to anything that could attract more harassment.
I recall she even once complained about Elon on her PL for how shitty Twitter has become, got a ton of harassment for it, and then deleted her complaints and said she wouldn’t bring it up again. If she doesn’t even feel safe enough to vent about a person as universally hated as Musk, I unfortunately don’t see her doing anything risky in her idol life. And while I usually think the girls that treat the boys like a plague are guilty of perpetuating a toxic community, I think Kiara has been through the most out of all of them so I kinda give her a pass.
There’s recently been some discourse from indies basically being sad that their old friends left to rebrand or join a corpo. It is sad, but I can understand if someone wants to take their career in a certain direction. It’s the same as seeing someone graduate, just in the other direction.
Weird question, but does anyone know of any male POC fashion accounts that dress in Ouji style? I know there’s a TON of female lolitas but I cannot find any dudes and I’m curious to see that expression 🙁 pls halp me
I can’t find any that accounts specifically for POC guys but there are some accounts I follow that have ouji fashion on twitter. One of them is LolitaWardrobe since I follow like 1000+ accounts
Thanks, I spent half of today searching but nothing 🙁 I might try some JP only terms to see if anything comes up. Flay might be a niche of a niche type of guy.
i’m so happy for her… sometimes i worry the mamas wont work with controversial PLs so that their business with the corps won’t be in danger (and i especially saw very little sympathy towards selen from the JP crowd during her termination) so im really glad this worked out
doki took everything that wasn’t nailed down on her way out lol
mikeneko’s live 2D is by the same mama that created the Rushia model in hololive and she’s way more controversial. I think a lot of people probably dont understand that they won’t be sued or anything for using the same mama’s if they choose to do so. Happy that Doki is succeeding.
of course there’s no grounds for suing, but the difference is while mikeneko was arguably more controversial, hololive is way less spiteful than nijisanji. no legal action, but i wouldn’t be surprised if a higher up would want to cut ties with anyone that supports doki.
it’s so funny how the eyes/neck/mouth are damn near identical to selen’s too. I’m really enjoying how much of her post-grad career so far has just been a giant middle finger to niji
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So contrary to the initial reaction, it seems only ERB really wants to connect with the boys. Its good step though!
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I think all the girls are friendly with the boys behind the scenes (i remember Hakka’s playful banter with GG’s pl was cute), but on stream only few are as forward about it as ERB. All my respect to her for beeing so open about it.
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She’s probably testing the waters and see how the public reacts and if it’s worth it (for the other girls), at the end of the day it is a job for them
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If it’s profitable, they’ll collab, if not, they won’t. For the majority at least. I think some of the more idol purist ones like FWMC, maybe Kiara, probably never male collab and while I admire the dedication to a culture they’ve loved from a young age I have mixed feelings about anything that caters so heavily to male delusions of ownership over women.
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I respect Kiara’s decision because she does have androphobia for what I understand.
Personally, I also had intense case of both androphobia and the extremely rare case of actual misandry. I actually started watching Stars as exposure therapy. and I’m really healing tons thanks to them (I even interact with the guys at work now!) but not everyone can heal that way, so I can give Kiara a bit of leverage and everyone has their own healing time/way.
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Hi, part-time KFP here. Kiara doesn’t really have androphobia… she has irl male friends that she sometimes mentions during her tangents and even very early in her Holo career she did collabs with irl males like Gigguk in a Shadowverse tournament or a male game dev from the Tales Of series, and even in the very beginning of HolostarsEN she mentioned being proud of the EN branch during their predebut and would occasionally mention them like the Magging Time meme or the fact that she wanted to join Axel’s group song collab, but all the spots were taken before she could respond.
She stays away from mentioning Holostars nowadays because of all the antis that she just doesn’t want to deal with because she has a long history of (and ongoing issue with) harassment from unicorns, her own antis, and irl stalkers that have followed her to conventions despite her asking them to stop. She has become very risk averse to anything that could attract more harassment.
I recall she even once complained about Elon on her PL for how shitty Twitter has become, got a ton of harassment for it, and then deleted her complaints and said she wouldn’t bring it up again. If she doesn’t even feel safe enough to vent about a person as universally hated as Musk, I unfortunately don’t see her doing anything risky in her idol life. And while I usually think the girls that treat the boys like a plague are guilty of perpetuating a toxic community, I think Kiara has been through the most out of all of them so I kinda give her a pass.
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If true, that’s a shame. Did one of them comment to that effect?
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It’s a shame because Yuniiho was definitely a Stars fan.
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i mean yeah but shes not obligated to talk to guys if thats not what brand she’s going for in hololive
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There’s recently been some discourse from indies basically being sad that their old friends left to rebrand or join a corpo. It is sad, but I can understand if someone wants to take their career in a certain direction. It’s the same as seeing someone graduate, just in the other direction.
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she’s in significantly more danger than the rest of them if she pisses creeps off tbf, jp doxxing is built different
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this, i was waiting for her to talk about them. she even draw tavi’s bday art
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That was CureYunny (not Yuniiho)! https://x.com/CureYunny/status/1777191132524585287
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( ˶°ㅁ°)` my bad! i thought they were the same person (tbf they were both pink) thank you for the correction
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It’s always great to see ERB vibing with the boys.
And she’s starting to understand Hakka’s charisma.
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i’m legit so happy to see a new member who isn’t afraid to talk to the boys. feels like a breath of fresh air
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seeing ERB comment on a fanart of Shinri sitting on the toilet… this is a mere inkling of the power of normalizing interaction between the branches
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Weird question, but does anyone know of any male POC fashion accounts that dress in Ouji style? I know there’s a TON of female lolitas but I cannot find any dudes and I’m curious to see that expression 🙁 pls halp me
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I can’t find any that accounts specifically for POC guys but there are some accounts I follow that have ouji fashion on twitter. One of them is LolitaWardrobe since I follow like 1000+ accounts
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Thanks, I spent half of today searching but nothing 🙁 I might try some JP only terms to see if anything comes up. Flay might be a niche of a niche type of guy.
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LOL @ Doki’s new outfit. I saw it coming but it’s always so kino when a chuuba graduates and gets a model by their corpo mama
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It’s such a big downgrade from the original Doki model and outfit…
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i think the new face/hair on top of the old outfit would be incredibly cute
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True, mikeneko was so based for that xD
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mikeneko is just one out of many who have done this idiotchama
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the tsb references in her intro video T_T their friendship is so cute
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i’m so happy for her… sometimes i worry the mamas wont work with controversial PLs so that their business with the corps won’t be in danger (and i especially saw very little sympathy towards selen from the JP crowd during her termination) so im really glad this worked out
doki took everything that wasn’t nailed down on her way out lol
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mikeneko’s live 2D is by the same mama that created the Rushia model in hololive and she’s way more controversial. I think a lot of people probably dont understand that they won’t be sued or anything for using the same mama’s if they choose to do so. Happy that Doki is succeeding.
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of course there’s no grounds for suing, but the difference is while mikeneko was arguably more controversial, hololive is way less spiteful than nijisanji. no legal action, but i wouldn’t be surprised if a higher up would want to cut ties with anyone that supports doki.
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it’s so funny how the eyes/neck/mouth are damn near identical to selen’s too. I’m really enjoying how much of her post-grad career so far has just been a giant middle finger to niji
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TBF all of her models have 90% identical faces haha
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Every single artist wanted a pie in the ‘middle-finger-to-niji’ bandwagon out of sheer spite. It’s one of the rare times to stick it to a corpo.
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nooo i missed liz unarchived karaoke 😭 sorry to ask it here but does anyone have the link;;
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https://gofile.io/d/2ZEMLj
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Love ya anon-chama
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SHES DOING ENCORE FOR BETTEL!! I LOVE HER SO MUCH ITS UNREAL
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singing bettel’s orisong… playing with takamori jpegs like dolls… she’s just like me fr fr
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my boyfriend and I watching ERB together and we’re both in love with her XD also this is the first time he’s hearing Bettel’s og song.
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Did he liked the song?
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she’s actually so based for singing that to like 25k people
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