I think we’re reaching a point in vtuber design that it feels like everything has already been done and a lot of designs feel like rip-offs or a mishmash of popular concepts. Keeping this in mind, I try not to compare when looking at new faces but even so from their new 5 man group, 3 of them give off major Great Value vibes : / Unless their personality really makes them stand out, they’ll be ‘talent X dupe’ in my head forever
it’s a good strategy to commission mamas of existing boys. it’s basically free ad with the way everyone is going OMG ITS X’s BROTHER and it automatically targets the crowd who are already interested/into male vtubers
also hiring experienced artists who has already dabbled into making models will save time and guarantees quality. but i agree that some designs and theme hit a little too close
Yeah, my feed is full of Armada making jokes about the dino being Ruze and Jurard’s baby. Some people may not like it, but they use this strategy because it works.
Gotta say that it makes me think less of FSP’s management for going for this strat when StarsEN already has public shipping as a big no-no. People were bringing up that guy to Ruze as soon as he was announced, and I doubt that people will be able to hold back on bringing up the comparisons to their faces. Don’t think Jurard would want to roll with it, either, since Ruze probably won’t like it. It’s also pretty crappy for the new talent since he hasn’t even established anything about himself and immediately got tied to two vtubers outside of his company. It’s 100% going to lead to the audience begging for collabs before he can really establish his identity as a talent. If he gives in to the pressure to interact with Ruze and Jurard, other people might call him a “leech” if he plays into it too far. Poor guy is going to need to be extra careful about how he handles it since debut jokes will follow you for the rest of your career. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth that his company’s actions ended up setting him up for this on debut.
Audience behavior is one thing, but gotta admit they really put some debuffs on this gen. Revealing them and opening their yt so far before actual debut which open them to yt subs and views culling, similar concept with other corpo vtuber, debuting close to the date of said similar concept vtuber’s anniversary, difficult and complex design, and lets not forget other corpos also debuting new en gen on that date (v4mirai & akavirtual). Sure you’re confirmed to gain some audience from other fanbase but the viewership is already stretched thin.
It’s on FSP when it was 100% predictable. “Hey, let’s have the mama of this guy who has dinosaur genmate draw OUR dinosaur! No comparisons will be made between the three whatsoever!”
Really, they’ve not debutted yet and you call him a ”leech”? What are you, a unicorn? Calling the boys a leech reminds me of those unicorns from the girls’ side
Is it just me or do their names feel kinda… cringe? They don’t really roll off the tongue or feel catchy or marketable and feel like they were thrown together from a fantasy name generator
Then again, Cassian was the member of Avallum I was the least interested in at this stage, and he ended up being the only one I really fell in love with after debut, so that doesn’t mean much.
When I think something is interesting, I want people to know what I’m talking about so they can check it out and form their own opinions. Shocking, I know.
I’m really not rocking with the designs except for one of them, it seems like a downgrade compared to the first gen to be honest. Hopefully they’re entertaining though!
The more and more complicated and gatcha like vtuber designs are the less I like them and these have got to be some of the worst offenders I’ve seen in a while. No offense to their mamas since they were probably just given concept guide lines but damn, I like almost every single one of their other vtuber children designs better.
for regloss, they were designed for the female gaze (more realistic proportions, clothing styles popular to girls/ lesbians than men). didn’t really work out, they didn’t underperform per se but yeah. so now flow glow is more towards to the male gaze.
i still love them though. the street style is so cool and versatile and really differentiates them from regloss. niko looks hot as shit (mummy?) also its kind of like prsk vbs where their casual outfits are just their stage outfits, while for regloss they debuted with the white stage outfits and different casual outfits for their live2d.
You are incorrect about ReGLOSS appealing to Lesbians. Lesbians watch the main branch holo girls, so there is no need to specifically appeal to them, which I don’t think was the aim with ReGLOSS. The problem with ReGLOSS was they got fucked over hard by Youtube and Cover’s unclear marketing on the purpose of their unit.
guys do not fall for the bait below and waste your time replying to obvious trolls, it’ll only draw things out. keep believing in the good out there and don’t let random trolls out there be what makes your day worse
also, as an aside: i’m guessing that, random trolls aside, this site’s demographic leans towards a group that’s unsettled, worried, and stressed about recent global events. as an older anon, i feel that and i feel for all of you, especially younger adults. i’m not going to say to be optimistic but i will say to stay motivated — things can change if we keep trying, but they never will if we give up. you may feel helpless, in which case seek solidarity and find communities (both irl and online if possible), and remember that humanity has a history of overcoming and progression. we only truly lose when we let weirdos like the baiters below be the reason we give up.
I know this is the off-topic page where we can discuss anything. But I dislike seeing some political posts here. There’s a reason vtubing is seen as escapism and why many vtubers never or rarely discuss politics. We don’t need more stress on certain topics knowing how polarizing it is. We just want to watch our oshis do their thing and have fun. If people want to discuss politics, do it elsewhere.
I absolutely dislike whatever is going on with youtube. Every time I tried to watch a stream, it suddenly got cut off but the chat was still moving. I guess I had to watch the VOD. It only happens on desktop not on mobile.
happening on my end recently too. it’ll say “video will close in 3 seconds” then it redirects me to another video. It usually happens when I watch overlap streams and the one in another tab closes at random times.
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That company is so dedicated in finding dupes of popular talents kek
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I think we’re reaching a point in vtuber design that it feels like everything has already been done and a lot of designs feel like rip-offs or a mishmash of popular concepts. Keeping this in mind, I try not to compare when looking at new faces but even so from their new 5 man group, 3 of them give off major Great Value vibes : / Unless their personality really makes them stand out, they’ll be ‘talent X dupe’ in my head forever
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it’s a good strategy to commission mamas of existing boys. it’s basically free ad with the way everyone is going OMG ITS X’s BROTHER and it automatically targets the crowd who are already interested/into male vtubers
also hiring experienced artists who has already dabbled into making models will save time and guarantees quality. but i agree that some designs and theme hit a little too close
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Yeah, my feed is full of Armada making jokes about the dino being Ruze and Jurard’s baby. Some people may not like it, but they use this strategy because it works.
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Gotta say that it makes me think less of FSP’s management for going for this strat when StarsEN already has public shipping as a big no-no. People were bringing up that guy to Ruze as soon as he was announced, and I doubt that people will be able to hold back on bringing up the comparisons to their faces. Don’t think Jurard would want to roll with it, either, since Ruze probably won’t like it. It’s also pretty crappy for the new talent since he hasn’t even established anything about himself and immediately got tied to two vtubers outside of his company. It’s 100% going to lead to the audience begging for collabs before he can really establish his identity as a talent. If he gives in to the pressure to interact with Ruze and Jurard, other people might call him a “leech” if he plays into it too far. Poor guy is going to need to be extra careful about how he handles it since debut jokes will follow you for the rest of your career. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth that his company’s actions ended up setting him up for this on debut.
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That’s on the shitty audience not FSP lol
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Audience behavior is one thing, but gotta admit they really put some debuffs on this gen. Revealing them and opening their yt so far before actual debut which open them to yt subs and views culling, similar concept with other corpo vtuber, debuting close to the date of said similar concept vtuber’s anniversary, difficult and complex design, and lets not forget other corpos also debuting new en gen on that date (v4mirai & akavirtual). Sure you’re confirmed to gain some audience from other fanbase but the viewership is already stretched thin.
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It’s on FSP when it was 100% predictable. “Hey, let’s have the mama of this guy who has dinosaur genmate draw OUR dinosaur! No comparisons will be made between the three whatsoever!”
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bet walmart ruzerex is gonna leech onto the two the same way his senpai did
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Really, they’ve not debutted yet and you call him a ”leech”? What are you, a unicorn? Calling the boys a leech reminds me of those unicorns from the girls’ side
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You’re right, I jumped the gun. The new guy is chill until proven otherwise.
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Woah, calm down sister, femcels have no place for in Stars’ fandom, you can go back to the Niji
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come on, we both know this fandom is talented in holding grudges
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FSP is going out of its way to commission artists of top earners, its not a coincidence things feel like they’re copies.
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What a great strategy, siphoning viewers from existing fans in a quickly drying up pond.
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Before I invest time into them, I have to see what their PL was like.
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I think they think that will make people want to watch them but really it turns me off. I don’t need walmart jurard/ruze.
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He looks more like if jurard & ruze had a baby together lmaoo
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RUZEREX BUTTBABY IS REAL
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When will we get a spritual successor to the MagNoir buttbaby deepfake
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The new FSP EN gen, Ravanis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4lJMb8aoZE
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i’m a voice girl but no one’s sticking out to me…
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Is it just me or do their names feel kinda… cringe? They don’t really roll off the tongue or feel catchy or marketable and feel like they were thrown together from a fantasy name generator
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They’re super forgettable. I don’t watch FSP, but I also don’t hate them, and I already can’t remember any of them.
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Anon…have you never heard a vtuber name before? They’re basically all cringe.
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What is your definition of cringe?
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Cringe? Now I’m interested
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I thought I’d like the dino, but I’m the most interested in the cyborg from the trailers. He looks super chuuni.
https://youtu.be/3XRQQ4LYwNU
Then again, Cassian was the member of Avallum I was the least interested in at this stage, and he ended up being the only one I really fell in love with after debut, so that doesn’t mean much.
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Oh wow.. even with the link. How thoughtful of you.
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When I think something is interesting, I want people to know what I’m talking about so they can check it out and form their own opinions. Shocking, I know.
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I’m really not rocking with the designs except for one of them, it seems like a downgrade compared to the first gen to be honest. Hopefully they’re entertaining though!
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The more and more complicated and gatcha like vtuber designs are the less I like them and these have got to be some of the worst offenders I’ve seen in a while. No offense to their mamas since they were probably just given concept guide lines but damn, I like almost every single one of their other vtuber children designs better.
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i love p-poco as an artist but her children are too complex to draw as an unskilled artist
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So, Bettel’s and Ruze’s mamas are the character designers of two of the new boys (Malim and Ryzar).
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Can’t wait for the inevitable Bettel, Kuro, Malim collab
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for regloss, they were designed for the female gaze (more realistic proportions, clothing styles popular to girls/ lesbians than men). didn’t really work out, they didn’t underperform per se but yeah. so now flow glow is more towards to the male gaze.
i still love them though. the street style is so cool and versatile and really differentiates them from regloss. niko looks hot as shit (mummy?) also its kind of like prsk vbs where their casual outfits are just their stage outfits, while for regloss they debuted with the white stage outfits and different casual outfits for their live2d.
good luck to the flow glow girlies <3
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You are incorrect about ReGLOSS appealing to Lesbians. Lesbians watch the main branch holo girls, so there is no need to specifically appeal to them, which I don’t think was the aim with ReGLOSS. The problem with ReGLOSS was they got fucked over hard by Youtube and Cover’s unclear marketing on the purpose of their unit.
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I hate politics.
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guys do not fall for the bait below and waste your time replying to obvious trolls, it’ll only draw things out. keep believing in the good out there and don’t let random trolls out there be what makes your day worse
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also, as an aside: i’m guessing that, random trolls aside, this site’s demographic leans towards a group that’s unsettled, worried, and stressed about recent global events. as an older anon, i feel that and i feel for all of you, especially younger adults. i’m not going to say to be optimistic but i will say to stay motivated — things can change if we keep trying, but they never will if we give up. you may feel helpless, in which case seek solidarity and find communities (both irl and online if possible), and remember that humanity has a history of overcoming and progression. we only truly lose when we let weirdos like the baiters below be the reason we give up.
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I know this is the off-topic page where we can discuss anything. But I dislike seeing some political posts here. There’s a reason vtubing is seen as escapism and why many vtubers never or rarely discuss politics. We don’t need more stress on certain topics knowing how polarizing it is. We just want to watch our oshis do their thing and have fun. If people want to discuss politics, do it elsewhere.
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I absolutely dislike whatever is going on with youtube. Every time I tried to watch a stream, it suddenly got cut off but the chat was still moving. I guess I had to watch the VOD. It only happens on desktop not on mobile.
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happening on my end recently too. it’ll say “video will close in 3 seconds” then it redirects me to another video. It usually happens when I watch overlap streams and the one in another tab closes at random times.
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mizumiya su looks like biboo in streetwear
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koganei niko onee-san vibes
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i was thinking shindo looks like ao lol
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