I finally got around to listening to the Above Below Far East Remix and I think I hate it…… Why do they synthesize their voices so heavily that it sounds like it’s being played through a crunchy outdated computer? My favorite version of this song is still just Liz singing it in her karaokes without all the bullshit.
Really depends, Start Again didn’t have much autotune at all and I suspect it’s because every participant was considered a strong vocalist. Cover seems to largely autotune the hell out of songs with less polished vocalists, especially if they’re going to be performing alongside more experienced ones where the gap would be very apparent.
Not a fan of this approach though as it sanitizes the charm out of a talent’s voice and just results in a very cheap sounding product. Furthermore, I like being able to hear the progress a talent makes with their vocal training.
i’d be less annoyed about it if any of their mixers knew how to autotune correctly but they don’t. if all of your talents consistently sound better live than in covers (which are supposed to be the “best” version of a song), the problem is with the mixers, not the talents.
One of my consistent beefs is over-produced mixing hiding the true nature of artists voices. I always looooove karaoke or live versions because they’re authentic, even if layered with mouth noises, breathing, voice cracks and/or missed notes, they show me the person I love.
Ok, this waiting room showed up on the official Holostars EN channel. Any guesses on what this could be? Cover song? Original song? Outfit reveal trailer? New gen? Some random thing? Voicepack trailer?
Can somebody with a twitter account tell an out of the loop sapling what time Fauna’s graduation is tomorrow? I’ve been avoiding her streams lately because I’m emo about the end of an era but I still want to see her off.
i’m not a sapling, so if she brought it up on stream i apologize. but i can’t seem to find anything regarding a time on either her twitter or the holopro account.
Hmm wish she’d posted something concrete off stream (I’ll just assume she said it’ll be at FST on stream or something), but my oshi is unfortunately like that sometimes. Thank you so much for checking nonnie mwah
Does whoever is VPN spamming reports want to talk…? IDC that the posts are gone tbh but your level of obsession over this is concerning.
And it is evident that you’re a VPN spammer because the last time you made similar comments a while back the ratios skewed against you over a span of hours to days as opposed to the unnatural ratios you’re farming on your own within minutes.
How can I be Ernoul if you’re Ernoul? Unless… No… maybe the real Ernoul was inside all of us all along?
This would explain much. Such as why so many among our numbers are so thirsty for the Stars.
I’m stating this from a place of genuine concern because your typing style across posts is very recgonizable and consistent with the person who made a very worrying post on Christmas Eve. This site and this issue are not appropriate or healthy outlets for whatever you’re experiencing IRL, nonny.
Okay, I’m genuinely relieved to hear that. I know mixing personal issues with fandom issues can go very badly for your health from firsthand experience.
Please know that the majority of people posting about the girls’ new outfits are not coming from a bad place… IDK if VPNs were all unveiled right now my own post history would prove that I’m a genuine fan of both. Bad faith readings drive an unnecessary wedge into the fanbase.
No worries, hoping the best for you nonnie. I know it’s the unfortunate limitation of these anon sites that we can’t really maintain one on one contact, but I hope it helps to know I’ll be thinking of you and wishing you well.
I literally was in tears when Ruze raided us into Liz during her reveal. I love her but I couldn’t watch because it hurts how much cover obviously hates the en boys and their fansSo yeah I’m affected and I don’t want to see what we should have being given to their kohais
I’m saying this genuinely but if outfit reveals are getting you like this, you need to step back as you’re getting unhealthily emotional over nothing. Is it sad the boys don’t have them yet? Yeah, it is. But to this point? Sorry but that’s absolutely not OK.
If it helps to think of it this way, the outfits aren’t a limited resource. Especially not between branches that don’t share management and have separate budgets. The girls aren’t taking something from the boys by getting their outfits.
I think you need to step back a bit if these developments are impacting your emotional state so much. It’s definitely upsetting what is happening to the boys, but it’s not something the girls should be suffering for. You’re of more worth to the fandom and your oshi through positive action, and if you’re not in a place where you can do that right now or where being involved with your oshi is providing that, it’s best to take a break.
You have to remember that your oshi is a grown man who has the reigns on his own career at the end of the day. He does not want or need you brigading on his behalf and has said as much before.
S, if this is you, I think you need to get off of the internet until Altare returns. Or stop watching the boys if it affects you this much, because having your happiness reliant on streamers isn’t healthy at all.
I don’t think it’s helpful to say that, most people know on some level that that’s true but it’s difficult to control how you feel just by knowing what’s rational. Agree that a break is advisable, though.
I’m saying it becase people on discord had to talk them down when they were having a mini meltdown over Bettel’s mis-scheduled Lethal Company collab tweet and taking it as an insult to altventurers.
If it is them, then I hope that they can incrementally work towards finding balance that works for them. It’s good that they were open to talking about things and castigation isn’t a productive route to change.
At the end of the day we’re, like, mildly annoyed at worst but this person is clearly struggling with something. It’s never “just” a fandom issue. I’m willing to give grace.
I truly hope they can because they’re starting to remind me of a Vestie that was absolutely sliding into real mental health problems during Vespers suspension and the hiatus. It devolved into them going on the old site to have white knight fights with everyone there to the point that people recognized their writing style and called them out (I think they either left Discord or were removed, it got that bad).
Honestly blows that we’re losing good-natured fun posts over a single person’s tantrum. It’s been said before, but it’s really serious flaw in the report system that this can happen. There aren’t really other comfortable spaces where I can joke about and discuss the girls’ side with other nonnies.
I think a lot of Nonnies need to remember that a majority of StarsEN fans were and very much still are fans of HoloEN as well. That’s what it was for me.
He’s upset with the company, and needs time to process the situation and take care of his mental health. I think doing the same would be good for you.
If you want to vent please do so in the replies of this post (just please stop flinging unfounded accusations against other fans,we’re not your enemies), but promise you’ll do what’s best and step away if after considering things you feel a break would do you some good.
yes i’m still sad the boys don’t have NY outfits either. but there’s no reason why i can’t enjoy cute girls too?? besides the fact that it’s obviously not their fault either, lol
You’re just an an asshole gloating they got theirs while the tempura community has been fucked up over our boys getting passed over yet again. I love women, but you are an asshole
When you don’t want women to be able to talk in a space free of pedophiles and want all of the conversation to be centered on men it kind of does sound like you hate women no offense.
Still so charmed by all of Justice’s new outfits <3 I think this was my favorite round of NY outfits from EN.
What styles of NY outfits would you guys like to see for the boys, by the way? Curious about what you guys would like to see for summer as well. Flayon in a Taisho era style would be crazy cute.
When it comes to, like, gacha games, I feel like men's summer skins tend to be really samey and underwhelming. But StarsJP has always had such a fun range of summer outfits and I'm hoping that carries over to EN as well if they get them.
Advent still doesn’t seem to be receiving new outfits. Can we connect this to our side’s ongoing issues with management? Maybe a good way to make Advent fans stand with us and put some pressure on Yagoo.
I don’t think Advent’s primary fanbse will ever align with that of the Stars. But yeah, it has been a long time by prior standards. It’s been longer than the time between Flayon’s debut and first outfit.
if you wanna talk about a lack of outfits, regloss is a stronger point than advent (who do have second outfits, that’s what ny outfits are). or do you /#/ monkeys not care about anything besides en?
What’s up with all these obvious baiters trying to pass as starmin here lately. Which rrats are you trying to counter by screenshotting comments here to post on /#/?
Honestly doubtful. I don’t know why Advent wouldn’t have second outfits by now, but it’s usually based on budget, if they want their Mama/Papa to draw them, and the availability of their Papa/Mama to rig them. Any of those factors fucking up can put them behind.
New Year outfits are not exceptions to the yearly outfit rule and I don’t know why people keep thinking they are. The NY outfits ARE their second outfits. ReGLOSS not having second outfits is far stranger than Advent not having third outfits.
Not really? I know this is old so policy may have changed, but off the top of my head Myth got 2 group outfits in the same budgeted year (their dress party ones and their NY kimonos at same time as Council did), and so did Uproar (their summer ones and their NY ones). [If we’re assuming a year = from debut to anniversary, and then anniversary to anniversary.]
It’s already kind of inconsistent but unless Advent allocated their outfit budgets elsewhere, it’s actually a little strange that they haven’t gotten a second outfit yet. (For reference: Council debuted in Aug. 2021, got their NY ones in Jan. 2022 and started rolling out their 2nd outfits in Dec. 2022 [~6 months after their first anniversary], with Bae’s being the last in March 2023 cause her Mama was busy.)
Nah, the New Years outfits have always been a given. That’s why it’s considered so strange that StarsEN hasn’t gotten their New Years outfits despite no announced change in policy from Cover. DevIs not getting automatic New Years outfits is generally attributed to them being an experiemental branch.
If you look at other predecessor gens, you usually would expect a New Years outfit at New Years and your first other outfit in about a year’s time after debut, give or take a few months. Anything after that is a responsibility of the talents themselves to organize or fund in some capacity, this is something that Kiara has explicitly outlined in the past.
I finally got around to listening to the Above Below Far East Remix and I think I hate it…… Why do they synthesize their voices so heavily that it sounds like it’s being played through a crunchy outdated computer? My favorite version of this song is still just Liz singing it in her karaokes without all the bullshit.
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because cover likes to autotune their talents until they sound like vocaloids, even when the fandom tells them it sounds like shit and we hate it.
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Really depends, Start Again didn’t have much autotune at all and I suspect it’s because every participant was considered a strong vocalist. Cover seems to largely autotune the hell out of songs with less polished vocalists, especially if they’re going to be performing alongside more experienced ones where the gap would be very apparent.
Not a fan of this approach though as it sanitizes the charm out of a talent’s voice and just results in a very cheap sounding product. Furthermore, I like being able to hear the progress a talent makes with their vocal training.
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i’d be less annoyed about it if any of their mixers knew how to autotune correctly but they don’t. if all of your talents consistently sound better live than in covers (which are supposed to be the “best” version of a song), the problem is with the mixers, not the talents.
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my favorite is tempus dildos
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I think you commented on the wrong post, anon.
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One of my consistent beefs is over-produced mixing hiding the true nature of artists voices. I always looooove karaoke or live versions because they’re authentic, even if layered with mouth noises, breathing, voice cracks and/or missed notes, they show me the person I love.
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Ok, this waiting room showed up on the official Holostars EN channel. Any guesses on what this could be? Cover song? Original song? Outfit reveal trailer? New gen? Some random thing? Voicepack trailer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT3dsUILcXg
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Cover song from Armis probably since Octavio also just tweeted about it.
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def something related to new years. the background is a traditional jp textile pattern
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tempus dildos
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Can somebody with a twitter account tell an out of the loop sapling what time Fauna’s graduation is tomorrow? I’ve been avoiding her streams lately because I’m emo about the end of an era but I still want to see her off.
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seemingly 13 hours from now. wherever you are from nonnie
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i’m not a sapling, so if she brought it up on stream i apologize. but i can’t seem to find anything regarding a time on either her twitter or the holopro account.
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Hmm wish she’d posted something concrete off stream (I’ll just assume she said it’ll be at FST on stream or something), but my oshi is unfortunately like that sometimes. Thank you so much for checking nonnie mwah
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Does whoever is VPN spamming reports want to talk…? IDC that the posts are gone tbh but your level of obsession over this is concerning.
And it is evident that you’re a VPN spammer because the last time you made similar comments a while back the ratios skewed against you over a span of hours to days as opposed to the unnatural ratios you’re farming on your own within minutes.
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Ok, Ernoul.
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How can I be Ernoul if you’re Ernoul? Unless… No… maybe the real Ernoul was inside all of us all along?
This would explain much. Such as why so many among our numbers are so thirsty for the Stars.
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…i don’t wanna Ernoul inside me
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It’s a spiritual ukekin thing stop having scary thoughts and inflicting them on me
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I’m stating this from a place of genuine concern because your typing style across posts is very recgonizable and consistent with the person who made a very worrying post on Christmas Eve. This site and this issue are not appropriate or healthy outlets for whatever you’re experiencing IRL, nonny.
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Oh that’s not me I assure you.
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Okay, I’m genuinely relieved to hear that. I know mixing personal issues with fandom issues can go very badly for your health from firsthand experience.
Please know that the majority of people posting about the girls’ new outfits are not coming from a bad place… IDK if VPNs were all unveiled right now my own post history would prove that I’m a genuine fan of both. Bad faith readings drive an unnecessary wedge into the fanbase.
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Yeah you’re right, i know most are just excited but it still feels awful. I should probably take a break, thanks for reaching out.
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No worries, hoping the best for you nonnie. I know it’s the unfortunate limitation of these anon sites that we can’t really maintain one on one contact, but I hope it helps to know I’ll be thinking of you and wishing you well.
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I literally was in tears when Ruze raided us into Liz during her reveal. I love her but I couldn’t watch because it hurts how much cover obviously hates the en boys and their fansSo yeah I’m affected and I don’t want to see what we should have being given to their kohais
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Holostar =/= hololive
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I’m saying this genuinely but if outfit reveals are getting you like this, you need to step back as you’re getting unhealthily emotional over nothing. Is it sad the boys don’t have them yet? Yeah, it is. But to this point? Sorry but that’s absolutely not OK.
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If it helps to think of it this way, the outfits aren’t a limited resource. Especially not between branches that don’t share management and have separate budgets. The girls aren’t taking something from the boys by getting their outfits.
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babygirl, i think it’s time to get off the internet for a bit
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I think you need to step back a bit if these developments are impacting your emotional state so much. It’s definitely upsetting what is happening to the boys, but it’s not something the girls should be suffering for. You’re of more worth to the fandom and your oshi through positive action, and if you’re not in a place where you can do that right now or where being involved with your oshi is providing that, it’s best to take a break.
You have to remember that your oshi is a grown man who has the reigns on his own career at the end of the day. He does not want or need you brigading on his behalf and has said as much before.
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My oshi isn’t even here right now cause he’s so upset with cover so…
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S, if this is you, I think you need to get off of the internet until Altare returns. Or stop watching the boys if it affects you this much, because having your happiness reliant on streamers isn’t healthy at all.
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I don’t think it’s helpful to say that, most people know on some level that that’s true but it’s difficult to control how you feel just by knowing what’s rational. Agree that a break is advisable, though.
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I’m saying it becase people on discord had to talk them down when they were having a mini meltdown over Bettel’s mis-scheduled Lethal Company collab tweet and taking it as an insult to altventurers.
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If it is them, then I hope that they can incrementally work towards finding balance that works for them. It’s good that they were open to talking about things and castigation isn’t a productive route to change.
At the end of the day we’re, like, mildly annoyed at worst but this person is clearly struggling with something. It’s never “just” a fandom issue. I’m willing to give grace.
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I truly hope they can because they’re starting to remind me of a Vestie that was absolutely sliding into real mental health problems during Vespers suspension and the hiatus. It devolved into them going on the old site to have white knight fights with everyone there to the point that people recognized their writing style and called them out (I think they either left Discord or were removed, it got that bad).
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Honestly blows that we’re losing good-natured fun posts over a single person’s tantrum. It’s been said before, but it’s really serious flaw in the report system that this can happen. There aren’t really other comfortable spaces where I can joke about and discuss the girls’ side with other nonnies.
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I think a lot of Nonnies need to remember that a majority of StarsEN fans were and very much still are fans of HoloEN as well. That’s what it was for me.
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He’s upset with the company, and needs time to process the situation and take care of his mental health. I think doing the same would be good for you.
If you want to vent please do so in the replies of this post (just please stop flinging unfounded accusations against other fans,we’re not your enemies), but promise you’ll do what’s best and step away if after considering things you feel a break would do you some good.
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you may think that somebody is smart fridging the justice kimono posts but i actually ate them all just like i’m eating the new outfits
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You didn’t eat them… Revisionism much? I very clearly ate both you and them.
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hey what’s that *distracts you and starts eating*
tempura cannibalism must continue
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ERB post lived though it all. It’s just you we hate
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Me when I’m epic and hate seeing women be happy for other women
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You’re just an an asshole gloating they got theirs while the tempura community has been fucked up over our boys getting passed over yet again. I love women, but you are an asshole
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Since when does talking about Gigi’s goofy opening bit constitute gloating
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Has it occurred to you that people might want to talk about the new outfits in a anonymous setting that doesn’t involve degen cunnyposting
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Don’t care justices outfits are a slap in the face that cover hates EN Stars and starmin and you’re on a stars site
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When you don’t want women to be able to talk in a space free of pedophiles and want all of the conversation to be centered on men it kind of does sound like you hate women no offense.
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Still so charmed by all of Justice’s new outfits <3 I think this was my favorite round of NY outfits from EN.
What styles of NY outfits would you guys like to see for the boys, by the way? Curious about what you guys would like to see for summer as well. Flayon in a Taisho era style would be crazy cute.
When it comes to, like, gacha games, I feel like men's summer skins tend to be really samey and underwhelming. But StarsJP has always had such a fun range of summer outfits and I'm hoping that carries over to EN as well if they get them.
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You’re real determined to rub salt in our wounds eh. Fuck off asshole
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What??? Lmfao
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if they ever get them ðŸ˜
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huh the comment thread about eating justice’s new kimonos is gone-
mine now *eats*
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Advent still doesn’t seem to be receiving new outfits. Can we connect this to our side’s ongoing issues with management? Maybe a good way to make Advent fans stand with us and put some pressure on Yagoo.
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I don’t think Advent’s primary fanbse will ever align with that of the Stars. But yeah, it has been a long time by prior standards. It’s been longer than the time between Flayon’s debut and first outfit.
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if you wanna talk about a lack of outfits, regloss is a stronger point than advent (who do have second outfits, that’s what ny outfits are). or do you /#/ monkeys not care about anything besides en?
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What’s up with all these obvious baiters trying to pass as starmin here lately. Which rrats are you trying to counter by screenshotting comments here to post on /#/?
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Honestly doubtful. I don’t know why Advent wouldn’t have second outfits by now, but it’s usually based on budget, if they want their Mama/Papa to draw them, and the availability of their Papa/Mama to rig them. Any of those factors fucking up can put them behind.
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? advent got their ny outfits already tho
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They mean their second outfits (like Axel and VG’s outfits), not their New Year’s ones.
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New Year outfits are not exceptions to the yearly outfit rule and I don’t know why people keep thinking they are. The NY outfits ARE their second outfits. ReGLOSS not having second outfits is far stranger than Advent not having third outfits.
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Not really? I know this is old so policy may have changed, but off the top of my head Myth got 2 group outfits in the same budgeted year (their dress party ones and their NY kimonos at same time as Council did), and so did Uproar (their summer ones and their NY ones). [If we’re assuming a year = from debut to anniversary, and then anniversary to anniversary.]
It’s already kind of inconsistent but unless Advent allocated their outfit budgets elsewhere, it’s actually a little strange that they haven’t gotten a second outfit yet. (For reference: Council debuted in Aug. 2021, got their NY ones in Jan. 2022 and started rolling out their 2nd outfits in Dec. 2022 [~6 months after their first anniversary], with Bae’s being the last in March 2023 cause her Mama was busy.)
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Somehow I’m only just now realizing it was probably FE Engage that Mika Pikazo was so unusually busy with
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You’re correct, and even at the time experienced Holo fans felt that Council’s outfits had been unusually delayed.
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Nah, the New Years outfits have always been a given. That’s why it’s considered so strange that StarsEN hasn’t gotten their New Years outfits despite no announced change in policy from Cover. DevIs not getting automatic New Years outfits is generally attributed to them being an experiemental branch.
If you look at other predecessor gens, you usually would expect a New Years outfit at New Years and your first other outfit in about a year’s time after debut, give or take a few months. Anything after that is a responsibility of the talents themselves to organize or fund in some capacity, this is something that Kiara has explicitly outlined in the past.
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