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Inspired by the question below since it had me thinking. Have you guys ever had an instance where an indie oshi of yours went corpo and you ended up not liking their content with the new persona? Maybe the other way around where you go to a corpo/graduate pl and you dont like the content there as much? Curious

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idk where nonnies seen this about appearance? anyways yeah for sure… I followed a vtuber for nearly two years and was overjoyed that he made it big corpo! then he debuted and was almost nothing like his formal self. sadge.

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This is VTUBERS world, stop lying their model isn’t important.

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it’s not the model but how they act, some people act really different depending if they’re indie or corpo. example magni/caspurr

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of course it is. if i want to watch stream regardless how the streamers look like, i’d rather watch regular streamers lmao.

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Last edited 9 days ago by Anonymous

It definitely is. I used to love watching this one content creator. Then, one day they got the stupidest looking vtuber/pngtuber avatar and it was so distracting that it completely put me off their content.

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Omg same for me with Takahashi I love him but his weird overly expressive Disney style new model is just so offputting I can’t watch him anymore

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Idk abt the design unless the design is actual ass that hurts me to look at

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a good model does get more eyes on you, sure. but it does absolutely nothing for retention, which is what really matters.

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For me that was Ryzar, mf so fucking boring. What a disappointment

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“sorry for interrupting this discussion, but does anyone know his PL? i can’t ask this on 4chan because that place is a hellhole.”

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I mean, if I had known his pl I wouldnt have bothered cause hes always been boring

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listen. as long as I don’t have to stare at an actual 3D meat person, I don’t care what the fuck their avatar is. it could even be a giant 🙂 on a blackboard and I would still tune in everyday if I like them/their content

but! there’s no denying an appealing design plays a major role on which vtubers blow up in popularity

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When it comes to choosing your Vtuber oshi, which one of these is the most important to you? [Voice, Character design, Personality, Game/content choices.] For me, it’s the voice. I at least tolerate the poor design, boring game choices, and the lack of personality. But if the voice is horrible and too grating for my ears then it’s an instant no from me.

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Last edited 11 days ago by Anonymous

content is really important to me like sometimes i LOVE a vtuber and hate their content. for ex. i only watch flay if he’s doing retro stuff but steer clear of the visual novel stuff. and i only watch hakka for tengutalks. i watch gavis bettel the most not just because of his personality but because he primarily plays games that i like, save for when he does a lot of horror, but that usually doesn’t take up his whole week anyway. i feel really bad that i never watched fauna much because her musical skills and asmr stopped being the focus at some point and that was the initial draw for me, even if i like everything else about her.

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Interesting topic. As someone who used to hate vtubers (lmao), for me it’s personality > voice > design > game/content

Back then, everytime i heard news about vtubers, it was always about them taking their fans support for granted, or done stupid thing (and can get away with it just because their fans whiteknight them).

It took me solid 5 months to finally have an vtuber oshi since i found him via unarchive karaoke. I even had my “this shit is so ass” moment when i first heard his singing lmao, but the way he still appreciated the fans through singing, eventhough he know he’s not that good at singing, got me hooked, i guess.

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Personality>Character Design>Voice>ContentI think personality is what I value the most, Ruze’s design is top elite, his voice is hot in a way, he loves DnD, does Karaoke, etc BUT I didn’t vibe with his personality, maybe it was my bad luck, but any time I opened his stream he was angry, or was very antagonistic to his chat, not in a playful way Axel does where he will call us cunts and then be a cutie to a point it felt wrong being there. Axel, and Bettel, I will watch their league streams even if they make me wanna hit my head against the wall, as a duty of love and loyalty. I tried to support Caspurr too, but he will ignore all new/non members (and then wonder why he doesnt grow??) he kinda did the same as Magni and why I never ended up vibing with him.

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Last edited 10 days ago by Anonymous

personality=voice>game choice>design. for me, the reason why voice and personality are equal is because they’re linked. your personality influences how you talk, and i care more about how a creator talks (cadence, energy, word choice) than the pitch of their voice or any accents they may have. the worst offenders are the ones that intentionally make their voice high/low to fit a stereotype or do the rising influencer talk that sounds? like they’re? constantly? asking a question? design means nothing, i regularly watch people who are PNGs or faceless and it doesn’t bother me at all.

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Last edited 10 days ago by Anonymous

relatable personality/interests above all else. if i can’t say “they just like me fr fr” at least once during a stream then im out. for example, i love to watch bettel but i feel like i’ve never been able to call him an oshi of mine primarily because i can’t relate to a lot of what he says, his interests etc. it’s like observing a specimen from the outside for me. by contrast, i relate HARD to members like gigi, reine, raden, magni/caspurr, and hakka so they’ve become my oshis. but i know some people like their streamers to have different perspectives and personalities as well, which i think is interesting!

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Voice > Personality > Content > Design for me personally. the way i mostly enjoy streams is as background noise

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I have so many vtubers I followed for pretty designs but never hooked me with anything else, so that is my last priority. Now when I see a design I like, I just follow their artist.

Personality > Content > Voice > Design

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This is also my standard

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Voice > personality > character design > content > games

I split content up because I give zero shits what they play.

example Ruze plays so many games I’ve never played or even seen before and straight up would never play on my own or watch someone else play but I dont care because he is what I come to watch and I like seeing him having a good time and its cute how he likes to teach us his ways like he is right now in Hunt which is a game I would never have cared about without him involved

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The order is the same for me. If I don’t like the voice, that’s the biggest dealbreaker. I don’t look at the screen a lot of the time since I’m usually busy doing something else, so voice and personality are really key.

The only big no for games is League. I don’t care how much I like the guy, I’m not sitting through daily, or even weekly, League streams for anyone.

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I thought that, then I sat through Ruze playing League and enjoyed it which only further proved I work this way. I am just a simp what can I say

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it helps that he doesn’t play it often or get too angry at the game, and was a silly drunk the whole time because I really can’t stand that game otherwise

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Same. If the voice is bad then I won’t watch them, even if the rest is perfect. I guess for me it’s voice > personality > design > game/content. Which isn’t to say I don’t care about the content, but I tend to have streams running in the background anyway so it’s not my biggest priority.

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Game/content choices and like… not necessarily personality but how they interact with the content? I need them to be a competent gamer and provide engaging commentary that shows they’re actually thinking as they play.

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kinda goes like this for me: personality > game/content choices > character design > voice

it’s pretty simply actually. if I can’t click with my oshi, there’s no reason to continue watching and supporting them

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voice the most important for me definitely, personality second and if the game taste aligns with mine its just a bonus

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Personality > Game/content choices > Voice > Character Design, just sticking to the list you’ve provided. I can watch or listen to a crudely drawn PNG for hours if I can vibe with them and whatever’s on the docket for the day. One of my oshi sounds like being wrapped in a warm blanket, and one of the others sounds like he gargles rock tumbling grit.

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13 more days people of Elysium, 13 more days!!!!!!!

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Not sure what you’re talking about but for real this site’s domain expires on feb 16th and i wouldn’t be shocked if admin chose not to renew

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Honestly, the admin of this site is soft AF. Even at its worst, it has never been as bad here as Nyfco was or 4chan is.

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Idk i got too much going on my life to want to be responsible for any bitchy online drama. I don’t blame them if they feel the same.
You can go ahead and build the next site if it comes to that and you feel that way.

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yeah nyfco . . . oh GOD nyfco

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wouldn’t blame admin if they decided to let this place die. last I saw an anon might be setting up a community on dreamwidth

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After seeing what happened in the recent pages, I won’t be surprised if that’s the case. This site isn’t fun anymore sadly aside from seeing announcements and celebrations of new merch.

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i remember they mentioned they got the holostars username so i checked it out, they seem to be making some progress!

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if admin lets this place die someone else will likely steal the domain and set this place up to be an even uglier hellhole lets be real. trolls have this place locked down with vpns and now the domain is up for grabs? seems like a no brainer.

im just concerned about the starmin nonnies (if any are even still left after the piss poor moderation that this place has had) that might keep coming here after ownership changes hands. they’ll be vulnerable to info scraping and malicious links that a stars anti can set up.

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admin can just put up a giant red blinking “hey site is shutting down do not visit after <date>”

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True but a lot of anons here are such ingrates to the current admin that I would totally understand if they wanted to wash their hands of this whole business and return to just being a normal fan.
It’s ridiculous that after all this time we’re still getting accusations that the admin holds certain biases and purposely deletes posts despite the report threshold-based deletion being one of most basic known features of the forum.

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True but a lot of anons here are such ingrates to the current admin that I would totally understand if they wanted to wash their hands of this whole business and return to just being a normal fan.

Lolz, return to normal fans

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i’m pretty sure most of the people shitting on admin have been stars antis roleplaying as starmins trying to terrorize the fanbase. i was on this site early when nyfco first went down and this place was a temporary haven and people were universally grateful and quick to silence trolling in the first couple months. but as time went on, things got out of hand. we gave toxic behavior from anons an inch and then the antis took a mile.

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Idk i feel like we sometimes shove off too much negative behavior to this scarecrow of falseflaggers. I don’t doubt that a lot of them exist but at the end of the day it’s vtubing like running a coordinated psyop over this just sounds idiotic. We have proof and open confession of bad actors in our communities who are actual fans of the boys, who we know are not falseflaggers because they can easily be traced back to real fans on other sites.
There’s a significant issue of a vocal and problematic minority within our ranks at play, simple as. It’s not that complicated to believe when you consider a) the age of many vtuber fans, especially fans of male vtubers (the average age of female vtuber fans runs closer to the 30s) and b) the fact that type of people who become the most passionate vtuber fans are often some of the most mentally unwell.

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can we discuss other companies under this category? i’m really curious about ryzar’s PL (fsp) but nyfco got nuked way back and 4chan is a hellhole

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Yes, you’re allow to discuss other nonholostar here, they are our oshi friend

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“discussing other companies” = plz share non holopro vtubers doxx”4chan is a hellhole” = wah wah 4chan mods don’t allow doxxing

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Last edited 11 days ago by Anonymous

nice try. i know what kind of person you are.

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We already figured them all out

Malim Cendari – Koiro Yumi

Altus Zendoji – WahnVT

Ryzar Blazenfang – Kite Hasegawa (INVICTA)

Nix Voltare – Kaichinzu

Nayuta Umbrage – Komairui

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who tf came up with Neon Vortex as a vtuber name?

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It’s Kite Hasegawa. His is one of the more obvious ones since the members of INVICTA posted about how proud they were of him after he debuted using his new emojis.

It’s been posted a bunch of times already, our FSP schizo just keeps spamming reports until the messages get nuked every time, which, of course, just leads to people asking the same question over and over and over again.

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I’m not curious at all. Isn’t that weird?

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are you not tired asking the same question over and over again?

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admin tends to remove fsp talk so maybe take it somewhere else

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Not how post removal works here

spend actual time here before running your mouth

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No, it’s not the admin. People abuse the report button.

We had a regular discussion about FSP when they debuted, but people went schizo here.

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It’s not even “people “, it’s one guy who frantically spams any thread about them. You can tell because the discussion will be completely normal for most of the day and then a bunch of weirdly aggressive posts appear all at once along with bizarrely high downvote numbers

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You wouldn’t want to know his PL. I’m just going to point out that he also used to have content in a black and orange website, but that’s about it.

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This is so funny acting like stars are so pure in comparison considering Shinri’s PL STILL has adult content available to buy.
(Go buy it, it’s hot)

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*cough*
where?

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enjoy responsibly.
twt is @RexRisque and fansly is linked in bio.

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No wonder he hasn’t had a relationship in years, man’s icky

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shinrischizo, your posts always get a little chuckle out of me when they appear

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they’re adults that get horny and do adult stuff, i don’t see the issue. niji hired someone who openly did nsfw content. hell, one of the boys’ roommates has a porn alt with a fansly! it’s been dead since april, but the audios are still there.

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Last edited 10 days ago by Anonymous

That’s not true, and even if it was, why would it matter?

Nijisanji hired an actual manwhore

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It’s fine, the OFF-TOPIC page is the X of this site. Even Antis could post their rants here. Just don’t get offended if what you posted does get nuked because of mass report, tis freedom after all. Freedom of speech does not guarantee freedom from consequences.

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nah

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Is it wrong to masturbate to your oshi? or to even look at your oshi in THAT kind of way.

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This is me anon, everytime i see axel’s 3d

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Axel’s 3D model is literally sex on legs, I don’t know how someone could watch his showcase and not want to jump him. Whoever did the model deserves the sloppiest most satisfying sex imaginable.

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…other people not doing that???

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I regularly jerk it while listening to Ruze and Shinri yap so if it is oh well

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edging myself for nearly 2 hrs and busting to axels fake cock reveal & 2nd outfit armpit reveal was the best sexual experience of my entire life

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aniki would be proud

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What’s the longest you’ve gone without showering? mine is 3 days and counting…

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. . . i got you all beat, when i was like 9 or 10 i was actually afraid of the bathroom so i went almost a year without showering and relied on wet wipes

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During COVID I didn’t shower for months. I think the longest was like 4.

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Same, but I did do wet wipe whore baths daily

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PEASANTS, I’ve been only using newly washed clothes + cologne everyday during my 4 year college. I only stink when I start sweating.

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what y’all do with the dirty coochie?? that thing starts to itch at the 24 hour mark!!

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meybeee they still wash their crotch and face? just not fully body showering

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anon, i think you should go to the doctor if your coochie gets itchy

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These responses are either men or women so depressed they dont care if their hoohas are itchin. Theres just no way lol

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i tried to go one day to see if its really necessary (im a skincare freak tbf). felt so disgusted by the end of the day i took one.

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i think the longest i’ve gone is a week and a half? but that was in 2020 during quarantine

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5 days as of recently, but i think ive gone a week+ before

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Someone on Twitter said lemonleaf did a stream where she accidentally said konfauna. Does anyone know if that’s true or has evidence? I think she doesn’t keep her vods

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lemonleaf hasnt streamed since debuting as fauna so you’re being fed misinformation. most shes done were asmr vids on the side

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Sapling here confirming this.

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side note while we’re on the topic of lemonleaf, i’m kinda annoyed by the new lemonleaf clipper that’s uploading clips of her old pre-holo streams and clickbaiting them with titles and thumbnails to make them look like she’s talking about current day vtuber stuff. like one clip that was titled “lemonleaf talks about (nimi) nightmares” and it’s just her years ago talking about conceptual nightmares in general.

nothing actively harmful about it but it’s just annoying me regardless

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Agreed but clippers will always be filthy clickbaiters its how it is

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7MlGsvTV6M

Ina talks about why a studio/holohouse in America is impractical, echoing discussions had here whenever people would bring up “rumors” of an American 3D studio.

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From what I heard is that cover was going to open an office idk if it includes a studio as well? Idk though I’m just a lurker

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Its just a small office for coordinating sales deals. Lurk more

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idk if lurking more is gonna help this anon when the answer to their rumor was literally in the clip and in the comment chain below and they still didnt get it lmao

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idk why that is still even a topic when altare had build his own studio a while ago. i feel like that was already a sign it was never going to happen. maybe they threw the idea out there a couple times, but like ina said, logistically it just wouldnt work well anyway.

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a lot of vtuber fans are really naive youngsters. any working adult could think up of a dozen reasons why opening a studio in NA is unfeasible for cover even before the yen tanking

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Hell, I can tell who’s an idiot by how they have no idea the vast distance the US covers. They’ll say ‘just build a studio and rent apartments in one central location’ but that’s literally impossible unless Cover wants to be located in fucking Kansas or something. That’s also not getting into how talents in the US would still have a +4 hour trip at minimum, and solves nothing for the EN talents outside of the US, nor the different laws per state, etc.

All those people hear is “studio in NA so more 3D” and think it would be as convenient as how it is in Japan.

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I wanna believe it’s just teenagers that spread baseless gossip and stir drama, but I’ve seen a lot of early-20’s tempura on twitter say the stupidest shit sometimes.

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