This is what I’ve heard too. You won’t count as a live viewer in the ccv, but as soon as the stream ends and converts into a vod, you are counted as having viewed it. That’s how a stream with under 1K viewers might instantly convert to 8-10K, due to both people dropping in and out while it’s airing, and “external” views being aggregated.
Hi I’m the op, so do you recommend that I use it? The reason why I’m planning to use Holodex is so that I can watch more of my oshis VODs at the same time.
not that anon but imo since you’re watching them as vods I can’t imagine there’s any harm done. youtube will still count views from embeds like holodex.
Random question but did anyone ever get their Tempus jewelry from Memento? I ordered a necklace back in October and haven’t gotten anything or gotten a reply back on my support email requesting an update.
I wonder if this thread is written by the same author as r***n threads, too monotone:
“oh r**** is so good”
“oh r**** is so FINE”
“ikr, r**** is the best here and there”
“agree, r**** is very important”
“I’m with you bro, people keep talking about him all the time”
“Yeah, he’s so relevant. Wow.”
Nothing to talk about but refuse to die, not an event hype, not a horny post. This author needs to learn from the fsp marketing team, they’re good at balancing the conversation.
I was so disappointed and ashamed to see the official holoplus app thank him for bringing his brother on, it’s his anniversary and he made it himself these past two years. I don’t think any sources should be supplanting his presence or overshadowing it with a non-talent. My oshi deserves better than being fuwamoco’d into permanent twinship.
i do wonder why you are getting this offended on behalf of someone else for a joke. i mean this as respectful as i can be, maybe take a breather and realize this isn’t worth this amount of energy at all. it’s not that serious.
if bettel wants to do it and his brother wants to do it, then there’s no harm done. it’s a manager’s job to manage, and the twins have clearly got it handled between themselves lmao
they are listening, anon. the vast majority of the bettelion enjoy when they stream together, that’s why they keep doing it. a combined four people across both here and /mans/ does not an audience make.
“the vast majority of the bettelion” incorrect, the vocal users of the bettelion. considering the one time somebody raised cutting back on B2 collabs and diversifying, they got dogpiled on all fronts and then the jester spite booked TWO collabs with his brother the week after, nobody is gonna raise their voice in dissent on any official platforms.
You hear yourself? The phrase “dogpiled on ALL FRONTS” should have indicated that there’s a majority. If the majority hated the twin collabs, the reply of that ‘somebody’ should have been met with agreements.
at any rate, it’s not just the most vocal bettelion. i’m /#/ing, but the streams with his brother perform excellently. he’s also only had 3 since november, so there’s not really much to cut back on.
that same person who supposedly got dogpilled is still subscribed to bettel 2s actual streamer account on a tier 3 sub and interacts with his discord and simps daily and only stopped liking bettel because he did fanservice and now has a undeniable hate boner for him. there were also people that agreed with the same fan in question. it’s a vast majority because people still tune into the collabs. if they stopped doing well bettel would stop doing them. I don’t think you get that the clown only does certain things that aren’t self indulgent like league just for numbers just like the rest of the boys.
Absolutely wild amount of “context” to give. Who the fuck is stalking his discord this closely and keeping this many receipts on a random? Care to explain nonnie?
There was a huge expose on nyfco. We can’t name names and honestly i didn’t save the screencaps cause im not that schizo, but seems this person was bullying someone. Then someone else told them to stfu cause they were posting nsfw of 2Bert. There was a screencap war, and then said person posted on twitter that they had been blocked by 2Bert and booted from the discord server, and they didn’t understand why.
i’m split because on one hand i did think the twobert line was weird and kind of insulting but on the other hand, hakka also had a semi-insulting line in his post and i feel like whoever wrote those posts (manesans?) know the guys well enough to make jokes and stuff like that and may have even ran it by them beforehand. idk if i think cover should limit streamed interactions with family or anything but i do think bettel should try to set some self-imposed limitations in that regard.
I just saw it ”Thank you for giving us Bettel 2″, That’s insensitive given that you’d say that to a twin brother. As if Bettel 2 is the only content Bettel gave us.
Some of you either need to learn english (i say this as an esl myself) and western etiquette before running your mouths and get offended by everything just because it’s different from your culture
Hun, I think the managers should learn professionalism. Why include a family member who is not part of Cover? Iirc, this only happened with the Bettel Bros, do they put Hakkabro references at official statements? Plus, the last line came off as insensitive. Imagine rubbing to Bettel’s face that because of his brother he wouldn’t be here.
Along with the anons below I reported to https://cover-corp.com/en/contact. The difference is that I recommended that family cameos are limited to to at least 1 appearance/collab per 6 months. This doesn’t include the bau bau twins since both ARE a product of Cover Corps, I can’t say the same for the Bettel’s. The only sibling interaction I’d be fine with collabing is KobAlt
You cannot report a family member of a talent to cover just because you got blocked by him on twitter and got rejected on his discord after you posted erotic fanart of him
YOU’RE JOKING! THE FUWA twins and the Bettels are not the same! Shame on whoever thought of including 2Bert. It’s supposed to be Bettel’s day, not 2Bert! I’m going to form a minor complaint to Cover and tell them that family member cameos steal the spotlight from their talents. Why was it normalized in the first place?
The point being that most of us assumingly are fed up with family cameos and we have to pressure Cover to at least limit/ regulate the cameos. Not even Calli collabs with her mom every special occasions it’s most likely the Holostars, specifically Bettel and Hakka
Pekomama is in an entirely different realm of popularity that Twobert will never occupy ever. She also doesn’t appear at least once a week nor get incorporated into everything Pekora does.
Pekomama enabling Vanilla enjoyers to commit NTR, it’s so funny to watch. For real tho, I see incels thirsting over Pekomama and I’m like, shouldn’t Pekora be your target, since she’s single?
When pekora made it clear she WONT have pekomama on for random content but keep it to special occasions only? She even refused Cover when they wanted to incorporate her more.
IKR? I get that twins are almost inseparable but, on a professional level, Gavis Bettel should be able to exist as an individual without 2bert siphoning off him like Magni’s PL. It was a breath of fresh air when Gavin Better said 2bert is dead.
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This VG stream is rough lmao
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https://x.com/regisaltare/status/1877508077869543859 he’s so sweet
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https://paste.pics/00ad6a286e236d8b1ac95b0e4666eabf I have a genuine question, does watching my oshis’ VODs in Holodex count as a view? It’s my first time using it after a friend recommended it.
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The link is a print screen for reference
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I read where it doesn’t when its live, but the vod view is counted? Not sure off the top of my head. I might be mistaken.
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This is what I’ve heard too. You won’t count as a live viewer in the ccv, but as soon as the stream ends and converts into a vod, you are counted as having viewed it. That’s how a stream with under 1K viewers might instantly convert to 8-10K, due to both people dropping in and out while it’s airing, and “external” views being aggregated.
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Hi I’m the op, so do you recommend that I use it? The reason why I’m planning to use Holodex is so that I can watch more of my oshis VODs at the same time.
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not that anon but imo since you’re watching them as vods I can’t imagine there’s any harm done. youtube will still count views from embeds like holodex.
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Random question but did anyone ever get their Tempus jewelry from Memento? I ordered a necklace back in October and haven’t gotten anything or gotten a reply back on my support email requesting an update.
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No and I haven’t gotten a response to my status update inquiry either
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Leader is still alive….shoveling snow
https://x.com/regisaltare/status/1877114042558337386
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A timeline where there’s only Gavin Better without interference from 2bert? W timeline if you ask me.
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Bless you anon, this site needed a little spice. So I will sit down with my popcorn and watch this performance of yours.
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which one is thighter? Bettel or Bettel 2?
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Clussy-wise, Bettel
Classy-wise, 2Bert
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Clussy-wise, Bettel
Classy-wise, 2Bert
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On the same timeline, Magni’s in Yagoo’s position.
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Oh, we have the third character already.
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How many characters do we have so far?
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I wonder if this thread is written by the same author as r***n threads, too monotone:
“oh r**** is so good”
“oh r**** is so FINE”
“ikr, r**** is the best here and there”
“agree, r**** is very important”
“I’m with you bro, people keep talking about him all the time”
“Yeah, he’s so relevant. Wow.”
Nothing to talk about but refuse to die, not an event hype, not a horny post. This author needs to learn from the fsp marketing team, they’re good at balancing the conversation.
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“oh Bettel is so good”
“oh Bettel is so FINE”
“ikr, Bettel is the best here and there”
“agree, Bettel is very important”
“I’m with you bro, people keep talking about him all the time”
“Yeah, he’s so relevant. Wow.”
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I was so disappointed and ashamed to see the official holoplus app thank him for bringing his brother on, it’s his anniversary and he made it himself these past two years. I don’t think any sources should be supplanting his presence or overshadowing it with a non-talent. My oshi deserves better than being fuwamoco’d into permanent twinship.
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i do wonder why you are getting this offended on behalf of someone else for a joke. i mean this as respectful as i can be, maybe take a breather and realize this isn’t worth this amount of energy at all. it’s not that serious.
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But Bettel has put himself into that situation, he is the one that wants to have his brother show up weekly. No one is forcing him to do it.
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Then the MANAGERS should restrain him. Why are managers enablers?
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if bettel wants to do it and his brother wants to do it, then there’s no harm done. it’s a manager’s job to manage, and the twins have clearly got it handled between themselves lmao
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Whatever happened to ”listening to the audience”?
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most of the people who don’t like it either skip those collabs or have unsubbed by now
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Wrong. You should keep watching it, complaining about it and reporting it to cover.
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they are listening, anon. the vast majority of the bettelion enjoy when they stream together, that’s why they keep doing it. a combined four people across both here and /mans/ does not an audience make.
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By vast majority, you mean the loud minority?
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“the vast majority of the bettelion” incorrect, the vocal users of the bettelion. considering the one time somebody raised cutting back on B2 collabs and diversifying, they got dogpiled on all fronts and then the jester spite booked TWO collabs with his brother the week after, nobody is gonna raise their voice in dissent on any official platforms.
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You hear yourself? The phrase “dogpiled on ALL FRONTS” should have indicated that there’s a majority. If the majority hated the twin collabs, the reply of that ‘somebody’ should have been met with agreements.
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“somebody” that’s a lot of people.
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>got dogpiled on all dronts
>not vast majority btw
make it make sense.
at any rate, it’s not just the most vocal bettelion. i’m /#/ing, but the streams with his brother perform excellently. he’s also only had 3 since november, so there’s not really much to cut back on.
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that same person who supposedly got dogpilled is still subscribed to bettel 2s actual streamer account on a tier 3 sub and interacts with his discord and simps daily and only stopped liking bettel because he did fanservice and now has a undeniable hate boner for him. there were also people that agreed with the same fan in question. it’s a vast majority because people still tune into the collabs. if they stopped doing well bettel would stop doing them. I don’t think you get that the clown only does certain things that aren’t self indulgent like league just for numbers just like the rest of the boys.
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ATP, he should just unsub and leave the community.
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Absolutely wild amount of “context” to give. Who the fuck is stalking his discord this closely and keeping this many receipts on a random? Care to explain nonnie?
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There was a huge expose on nyfco. We can’t name names and honestly i didn’t save the screencaps cause im not that schizo, but seems this person was bullying someone. Then someone else told them to stfu cause they were posting nsfw of 2Bert. There was a screencap war, and then said person posted on twitter that they had been blocked by 2Bert and booted from the discord server, and they didn’t understand why.
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i’m split because on one hand i did think the twobert line was weird and kind of insulting but on the other hand, hakka also had a semi-insulting line in his post and i feel like whoever wrote those posts (manesans?) know the guys well enough to make jokes and stuff like that and may have even ran it by them beforehand. idk if i think cover should limit streamed interactions with family or anything but i do think bettel should try to set some self-imposed limitations in that regard.
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I just saw it ”Thank you for giving us Bettel 2″, That’s insensitive given that you’d say that to a twin brother. As if Bettel 2 is the only content Bettel gave us.
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Some of you either need to learn english (i say this as an esl myself) and western etiquette before running your mouths and get offended by everything just because it’s different from your culture
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Hun, I think the managers should learn professionalism. Why include a family member who is not part of Cover? Iirc, this only happened with the Bettel Bros, do they put Hakkabro references at official statements? Plus, the last line came off as insensitive. Imagine rubbing to Bettel’s face that because of his brother he wouldn’t be here.
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oh my god get some fucking fiber in your diet
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4/10 plot. “disappointed and ashamed” it’s been 2 years. That’s tsundere enough.
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Along with the anons below I reported to https://cover-corp.com/en/contact. The difference is that I recommended that family cameos are limited to to at least 1 appearance/collab per 6 months. This doesn’t include the bau bau twins since both ARE a product of Cover Corps, I can’t say the same for the Bettel’s. The only sibling interaction I’d be fine with collabing is KobAlt
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You cannot report a family member of a talent to cover just because you got blocked by him on twitter and got rejected on his discord after you posted erotic fanart of him
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That’s disggusting! Does anyone have the NSFW 2bert fanart?
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nonny, please never change lmao
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what the fuck. that’s the reason why that person went so schizo over him?!
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thinking that only one possible person could dislike leechbert when bettel has hundreds of thousands of subs and a worldwide audience is so funny
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Got blocked because of what? Wait what? I didn’t know this.
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Here’s the next dialogue:
Cover: so, you don’t like it?
You: yes.
Cover: you keep watching?
You: …
Cover: there’s no problem then. Next.
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> I’m not gonna watch Bettel, take that Cover!
> Proceeds to watch Shiori
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Glad that I already stopped watching him when he started to mention magni again
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YOU’RE JOKING! THE FUWA twins and the Bettels are not the same! Shame on whoever thought of including 2Bert. It’s supposed to be Bettel’s day, not 2Bert! I’m going to form a minor complaint to Cover and tell them that family member cameos steal the spotlight from their talents. Why was it normalized in the first place?
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I’m with ya bro. I miss the good ol’ days where sibling/parent cameos were taboo. I came to watch the talents themselves, not their family.
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You agree with yourself? That’s amazing.
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Anon, can’t accept that op has a valid point.
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What point?
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The point being that most of us assumingly are fed up with family cameos and we have to pressure Cover to at least limit/ regulate the cameos. Not even Calli collabs with her mom every special occasions it’s most likely the Holostars, specifically Bettel and Hakka
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the numbers dont lie lol. family cameos bring in the views. A small discord server number of people bitching about it wont stop them.
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”family cameos bring in the views”. Yeah if it’s in the context of a special, rare collab. Let’s see if the numbers would increase in the long run.
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Everytime Bettel streams with twobert he gets 2k views when his solo average is 1k so he literally doubles it
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Not every time, sometimes he got raided by erb, so his ccv got over 2k.
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Most of us who?
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I miss when it was a one time thing or very stretched out cameos. Bettel (and Nerissa, let’s be fair) kind of ruined that shit.
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Erm… Pekomama, that’s all I’m gonna say
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Pekomama is in an entirely different realm of popularity that Twobert will never occupy ever. She also doesn’t appear at least once a week nor get incorporated into everything Pekora does.
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Pekomama so popular that NTR haters now love a MARRIED woman. I see the hypocussy of these incells.
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Pekomama enabling Vanilla enjoyers to commit NTR, it’s so funny to watch. For real tho, I see incels thirsting over Pekomama and I’m like, shouldn’t Pekora be your target, since she’s single?
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milf buff, probably
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When pekora made it clear she WONT have pekomama on for random content but keep it to special occasions only? She even refused Cover when they wanted to incorporate her more.
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exactly. they don’t even watch her to be saying this. “erm…” mf
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DON’T YOU DARE TALK ABOUT THE QUEEN LIKE THAT!!!!!!!
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I think we need a bit conflict here, this is boring.
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IKR? I get that twins are almost inseparable but, on a professional level, Gavis Bettel should be able to exist as an individual without 2bert siphoning off him like Magni’s PL. It was a breath of fresh air when Gavin Better said 2bert is dead.
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why are you talking to yourself?
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Blud, the amount of interaction should tell you what and who his/her/its/their audience is.
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Even some guidances how to read this show. This is well prepared.
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Don’t ruin someone’s staged thread, they work very hard for this.
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